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Edit: Since the live stream is down, I've embedded a recording of the speech. I wanted to add two things to that. First, this just the policies version of the speech, with all the silly pandering and applause cut out, leaving just the concrete policy proposals.

Second, my general reaction. What ever happened to tax simplification? Why is it that every major policy goal is to be accomplished by tax breaks? Tax breaks for bringing jobs back to the US, tax penalties for removing jobs. Tax breaks for hiring veterans, tax breaks for manufacturing, tax breaks for small businesses, tax breaks for tuition, penalties for millionaires and billionaires, tax breaks for clean energy... seriously, people, it's a bit ridiculous. Can we really expect to tweak the economy any way we please by giving tax breaks to anyone and everyone?

Overall, I liked some of the more confrontational elements in the speech (like his proposal to remove subsidies from oil producers), but I'm disappointed to realize that it's just red meat for the base. Congress won't pass 95% of this agenda, certainly not in an election year, and likely not after one, either, so it's just so much hot air.
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Date: 25/1/12 02:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soliloquy76.livejournal.com
"...and everyone plays by the same set of rules."

Democrats: *applause*

Republicans: *crickets*

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Date: 25/1/12 02:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Made $42.7 million the last two years, paid taxes at 14%.

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Date: 25/1/12 02:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Is it wrong that I'm watching Kill Bill 2 instead?

/bitch you don't have a future!
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Date: 25/1/12 02:37 (UTC)
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DEY TUK ER JRBS!
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Date: 25/1/12 02:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
I miss the days when these things were written messages....

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Date: 25/1/12 02:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soliloquy76.livejournal.com
Is he really asking for "smart" regulations? From this Congress?

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Date: 25/1/12 02:54 (UTC)
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Date: 25/1/12 05:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Mitch McConnell has vowed to hold his breath and turn blue until a Republican occupies the White House again! Sadly this is more or less what he promised at mid-terms, to do absolutely nothing to benefit this country until it falls to ruin and we return a Republican to the Presidency.

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Date: 25/1/12 02:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soliloquy76.livejournal.com
He said they shouldn't get special tax subsidies or deductions.

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Date: 25/1/12 03:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soliloquy76.livejournal.com
LOL is someone boo'ing at a bill that bans insider trading in Congress?! haha

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Date: 25/1/12 03:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soliloquy76.livejournal.com
Hillary isn't buying it.

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Date: 25/1/12 03:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soliloquy76.livejournal.com
He could have done a lot more with that closing.

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Date: 25/1/12 04:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sealwhiskers.livejournal.com
Hey, Machine, since it is what it is today, I actually appreciate this post, but I would love if you could add some summary thoughts or discussion points of your own about the speech, in the end of this post.
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Date: 25/1/12 05:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayjayuu.livejournal.com
Being the new kid around here, is this an annual affair? (Not the speech, sillies. Watching it here.)

Because I totally would have liked to have watched it while hanging out here. Reading the comments makes me pine for the context.

Next year, make an announcement ahead of time?

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Date: 25/1/12 08:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
No worries, I'm sure there'll be plenty of CNN "live" coverage from the Situation Room in the months to come.

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Date: 25/1/12 09:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com
Don't know what's going on here, so here's Darth Vader pouring water into a plastic bottle.

Image

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Date: 25/1/12 16:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 404.livejournal.com
This OP and comments to it were much more amusing since I did not watch the SOTU address.