[identity profile] rick-day.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
What gets me with these humps in the GOP is the sheer hypocrisy of their position on issues such as "The Sanctity of Marriage"

Newt Gingrich lacks the moral character to serve as President, his second ex-wife Marianne told ABC News, saying his campaign positions on the sanctity of marriage and the importance of family values do not square with what she saw during their 18 years of marriage.

In her first television interview since the 1999 divorce, to be broadcast tonight on Nightline, Marianne Gingrich, a self-described conservative Republican, said she is coming forward now so voters can know what she knows about Gingrich.

In her most provocative comments, the ex-Mrs. Gingrich said Newt sought an "open marriage" arrangement so he could have a mistress and a wife.



So what's the deal here? Gay's can't marry each other because there is a sanctity issue? And Newt wants his vag, and eat it too?

How can anyone call themselves a member of the GOP, with an ongoing lack of effective leaders within the cabal? Which GOP nominee best fit your 'best candidate' scenario?

Speaking of....Even Perry can't exit a race without stepping in it.


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Date: 19/1/12 17:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Well, this should be interesting. Santorum, who can't run a campaign without screaming about the evil gheys out to get him for man-on-dog foolishness, Gingrich, who can't open his mouth without being offensive in all the right ways to give easy gifts to the Obama Administration and who's a deadbeat dead hypocritical assclown par excellence, and Romney who's a Mormon trying to gain the approval of a political party run by people who think Mormonism is a twisted cult for the exact opposite reason of atheists who dislike it for donating to anti-gay marriage causes more than the Catholic Church. Fun times....

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Date: 20/1/12 04:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] existentme.livejournal.com
Lol, this whole thing is nicely put together, thx.

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Date: 19/1/12 17:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Looks like my pre-season bet on Romney being this election cycle's Bob Dole is still on track.

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Date: 19/1/12 17:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
Does that mean that he will be the butt of Depends (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=Depends&hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=14466375303383631713&sa=X&ei=X1kYT-nZD6mViQLS65CaCA&ved=0CJEBEPMCMAE#) jokes?

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Date: 19/1/12 18:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Probably not, unless he starts talking about himself in the third person.

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Date: 19/1/12 19:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com


SNL Parody of ABC News Nightline with Bob Dole and Colin Powell in the 1996 Republican race for the nomination.

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Date: 19/1/12 17:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
I remember a time when the progressive party in America was called Republican. Some of them favored free labor for reasons other than the bottom line of their own private investments. At the time of Lincoln, the issue of social equality for all people was a political hot button. Although he campaigned in favor of social inequality, Lincoln practiced a higher degree of social equity when he invited Frederick Douglass into the White House. Years later, Republican president Teddy Roosevelt took a shellacking for having invited Booker T. Washington to dinner.

It is pretty clear: Republicans want to have their cake and eat it too.

My personal position on marriage is that it does not a family make. It is a property relationship that often compromises the integrity of the family. As an institution, it is over-rated.

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Date: 19/1/12 17:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Also, concubinage is traditional!

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Date: 19/1/12 17:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
Been there, done that. It beats walking the aisle any day.

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Date: 19/1/12 18:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Not to mention David, named a man after God's own heart had 16 wives and concubines, Solomon 1,000 wives and concubines, and Abraham 2 wives and 2 concubines, as did Jacob/Israel. Biblical marriage would tend to actually favor the Mormons in this regard more than orthodox Christianity, if we were to nitpick at it.

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Date: 19/1/12 17:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
The GOP was never about equality in a meaningful sense, the North did not embrace abolitionism for benefiting freedmen but to collapse the Confederacy when the Civil War proved a prolonged bloodbath, and surprise, surprise capitalism attempting to replace an unequal agrarian system does not produce utopia. And frankly I seem to miss what the Lincoln-era GOP has to do with Newt Gingrich's relationship problems. That seems more Grover Cleveland/Bill Clinton-esque.

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Date: 19/1/12 18:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
You remember the time of Lincoln?

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Date: 19/1/12 18:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
He doesn't need to, thanks to:
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Date: 21/1/12 19:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
It seems as if it were only yesterday. (It has actually been a few years since I was steeped in Civil War era history.)

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Date: 19/1/12 18:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paedraggaidin.livejournal.com
"Sanctity of Marriage" is one of those catch-all nonsense phrases that "family values" candidates throw around to whip their followers into a frenzy. It literally means nothing, when the people screaming so loudly about it:

1. Hate gay people with a religious zeal that would make an Iranian mullah smile, denying their civil rights and thinking of them as subhuman criminals. Santorum is merely the nastiest in this regard.

2. Are often less than sanctified in their own marital relations. Gingrich, for example, was carrying on an extramarital affair while he was wasting the country's time, energy, and legislative business impeaching the President for having an extramarital affair, something almost all Presidents have probably done, but which Clinton was merely stupid enough to get caught lying about. Gingrich later converted to Catholicism (a brand of traditionalist Catholicism, no less, that mainstream Catholics find repugnant) and was granted an annulment under somewhat suspicious circumstances so that his current (third) marriage would be recognized. (Note that I am not questioning his conversion at all, and I think he is sincere in his faith. I'm very glad he's become Catholic even if he's one of the nutty ones. But that doesn't change the fact that he's gotten special treatment WRT the annulment procedures, and I can't help but wonder if, had he not been a famous and prominent citizen, he would not have been granted one so easily.)

3. Blame the recent decades' decline of traditional marriage on gays, meanwhile Hollywood heterosexuals have been making an utter mockery of marriage for several decades now. The declines in traditional marriage has many causes (no-fault divorce, the sexual revolution, decline in influence of traditional organized religion), none of which has even the most tenuous connection to gays.

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Date: 19/1/12 18:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thies.livejournal.com
a cheating catholic is still better than a communist kenyan with a wookie as a wife

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Date: 20/1/12 06:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dv8nation.livejournal.com
Chewie and Han Solo would like to have a word with you out back by the dumpster.

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Date: 20/1/12 23:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dv8nation.livejournal.com
Just leave Corso Riggs behind and it's all good.

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Date: 19/1/12 19:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] michael barnett (from livejournal.com)
Most Republican politicians are simply wealthy in-the-closet homosexuals fighting their own (what they perceive to be) demons. It's pretty funny, actually. This "family values" stuff coming from people who deep-down want to be engaging in Roman orgies is textbook Jungian projection.

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Date: 19/1/12 21:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
Who doesn't want to engage in Roman orgies?
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Date: 19/1/12 21:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
Ya think?
Problem is, nobody who drops will endorse Paul. Which is understandable, but still sad.

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Date: 19/1/12 21:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
Ya think?
Problem is, nobody who drops will endorse Paul. Which is understandable, but still sad.

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Date: 19/1/12 21:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oportet.livejournal.com
He could just deny it, a bitter ex will say anything.

That's easier to believe than the alternative - that at some point women (plural) have been lined up to fuck Newt Gingrich.

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Date: 19/1/12 22:09 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Are you saying he should LIE?! *gasp*

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Date: 19/1/12 22:09 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muscadinegirl.livejournal.com
If Perry backs Gingrich I _know_ I don't want him as President.

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Date: 19/1/12 22:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com
How can anyone call themselves a member of the GOP, with an ongoing lack of effective leaders within the cabal? -- The same could be said of Dems (Bill Clinton, John Edwards, Anthony Weiner), so what's the point of asking?

Just because I identify more with the GOP than I ever would with Liberals doesn't mean I have to agree with everything they do. That behavior is indicative of unintelligent drones who can't do anything for themselves.

But I do agree, the Republican Presidential candidates are slim pickins this time around.

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Date: 20/1/12 00:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
Wait till 2016, he'll make a run.

Or did you mean Mario?

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Date: 19/1/12 22:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com
Rick Santorum has to be the creepiest guy I've ever seen running for President, and 1964 was the first Presidential election in which I voted.

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Date: 19/1/12 23:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whak-hat.livejournal.com
poor, poor America

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Date: 20/1/12 06:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dv8nation.livejournal.com
Are you kidding? These are the guys that are going to lose. Save that for if it really looked like one of them might win.

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Date: 22/1/12 23:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whak-hat.livejournal.com
No ones going to win is where my pity comes from. Left, right or right down the center, it just doesn't matter. None of these people look even close to knowing how to fix anything.

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Date: 24/1/12 04:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whak-hat.livejournal.com
no I've known that all along. It doesn't take politicians to fix things. It takes great thinkers, shakers and movers. The politicians are there just to take the glory

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Date: 20/1/12 00:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-mangos.livejournal.com
He just loves his country so much (http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2011/03/08/newt-gingrich-tells-brody-file-he-felt-compelled-to-seek.aspx). He had NO CHOICE but to cheat.

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Date: 20/1/12 18:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kinvore.livejournal.com
Here I thought the campaign was now down to Gordon Gekko vs. L. Ron Paul, but looks like Newt is making a comeback. And sorry, I couldn't think of a clever yet demeaning nickname for Newt yet, suggestions would be appreciated.

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