[identity profile] paedraggaidin.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
I am very sad that I did not find this out until after Conspiracy Theories Month, but now having found it, I can't not share it, because it's just too insane to keep to myself.

So, there's this website called The Vigilant Citizen. One of my classmates linked to it on his Facebook, and knowing him as I do, he's seriously concerned about this, which is scary, as you'll soon see.

If you go into the "About VC" section, at first the author seems fairly reasonable. He's got a bachelor's degree in Communications and Politics! He's "a music producer who has composed music for some fairly well-known 'urban' artists!" He really really wants you to understand importance of symbols! In everything! By the third paragraph it's pretty obvious that the guy is a nut.
My efforts to further understand the forces governing the world lead me to study secret societies, mystery religions, esoteric sciences and ancient civilizations. I’ve spent the last seven years researching Theosophy, Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism, the Bavarian Illuminati and Western Occultism. These schools of thoughts have many things in common: they are based on Hermetic teachings (Hermes, Thoth, Enoch, Mercury), they attach EXTREME importance to symbolism and they recruit within their ranks the most prominent people of all fields of society: politics, law and public service. The natural result of this phenomenon is the display of occult symbolism in all aspects of society, especially music, movies and buildings. My goal is to bring out the meaning of these symbols in a clear, concise and entertaining way.


The topic my classmate specifically looked at (in his own words, "it's worth another look if anyone is interested in seeing the occult influence over entertainment") was the 2009 VMA awards show. Every year, as most of us know, MTV hosts the Video Music Awards to, I guess, award the best videos of the year (I've never watched it myself, as I find awards shows to be even more vacuous and pointless than reality TV). But, as VC tells us, it's all part of a diabolical scheme to corrupt the youth of the world.

In short (you can real the whole masterpiece here), it goes like this: the entire 2009 VMA awards show was a carefully-staged and ingeniously-disguised occult ritual, meant to surreptitiously open the viewers to evil influences. It included:

  • A high priestess giving an opening sermon: Madonna's tribute to a fallen saint, Michael Jackson, including an occult prayer (Vincent Price's "Darkness falls across the land" monologue from the Thriller video)
  • The initiation of a new member of the inner circle, through ritual humiliation (the Taylor Swift/Kanye West fiasco)
  • A congregational prayer to Satan (led by Jack Black!)
  • A blood sacrifice (Lady Gaga's performance where she, apparently, appears to be covered in blood, surrounded by a Masonic-themed stage set)
  • The symbolic initiation of a new member into the Masonic order (Pink)
  • The acceptance of a new member into the order by the Inner Circle: Beyonce and Taylor Swift's friendly little moment, wherein they hugged while a strange message ("RDFO IL 40 PRO DEL ATO") was projected on the screen behind them


So yeah, at first read it seems like a joke, but the level of detail the author goes into makes it apparent that, no, he actually believes what he's saying, Jack Black (Jack Black! I mean, for God's sake, Jack Black! If I were Satan I think I'd pick a somewhat more sinister minion than Jack Black) really did lead the congregation in a prayer to Satan, the whole show was one giant, coordinated occult ritual. And my classmate believes it, too.

What scares me is that this classmate of mine isn't just some random crazy nutjob wearing an end-of-the-world sandwich board on a street corner. He is an intelligent and educated man who has a Bachelor's Degree, an MBA, and is halfway to earning a JD. I've talked with him at length on a few occasions, and mostly he sounds perfectly normal. But he genuinely believes that there is a giant worldwide occult conspiracy whose aim is the destruction of True Christianity™ and the remaking of civilization into a New World Order, which works its evil into society through music and subliminal messages, and which is insidiously inserting its members into high positions in politics, business, education, and even churches. He genuinely believes that pop music stars such as Lady Gaga are using weird occult mind-control techniques to corrupt our youth. He genuinely believes that Harry Potter and the Lord of the Rings were created by occultists to lure in children and open up their minds to Satanic influence. He genuinely believes that the US Government passed a law last year that allowed it to lock Truthers up for life so as to forever hide what really happened on 9/11. He genuinely believes that Jerry Sandusky was able to stay on at Penn State for so many years because he's a member of the Illuminati who have infiltrated every level of American society and keep one another in power no matter what.

And this guy, ladies and gentlemen, is going to be a attorney. You know, we joke about conspiracy theorists, we make fun of the kooky idiots who believe the Illuminati actually exist and the New World Order is real. It becomes less amusing, and more frightening, when you realize that some of the people who believe these things aren't, like I said, random nuts on the street, but are professionals, are politicians, are pastors. Are people, therefore, with actual power and influence. There are whole swaths of American Christianity that teach that the US Government is an evil tool of Satan, that there is a war between True Christianity™ and the US/UN/NWO that seeks to destroy the Christian faith, that everything from public school science class to Barack Obama are all part of a giant, coordinated, interconnected Satanic movement. Yes, they may be a small minority of American Christians, but they are an influential one.

It's all too easy to dismiss this as rank ignorance and uneducated stupidity, but too many people, like my classmate, really do believe this stuff, and that belief influences their voting. So no, I am not concerned about the Illuminati, because they don't exist. I am concerned about the lawyers, doctors, businessmen, politicians, and preachers who believe they do exist.

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Date: 3/1/12 18:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
The Bible is an excellent example of occult literature. The real satanic conspiracy took place in the fourth century when early Christianity was attacked by the power brokers who crafted trinitiarian dogma. Your friend is barking up the wrong tree.

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Date: 3/1/12 19:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Elaine Pagels' "scholarship"

I wouldn't mock her scholarly efforts with the finger-quote treatment. You may not agree with how others present her work, but she's no academic slouch.

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Date: 3/1/12 19:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
I remember when that book on the Gnostics came out, there was a big buzz about it for sure. And the Nag Hammadi Library had just been published in English a few years previously (I think by DoubleDay/Anchor?)

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Date: 3/1/12 19:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
I was in a unique major, it was called "Religious Studies" as a part of the philosophy dept at Christopher Newport College (now University), a state school. The head of the program was a Anglican who was a believer and attended his parish regularly, etc. But he was firmly in the modern form criticism and modern scholarship camp and believed there were several heterodox traditions and conflicts within early Christianity, with present day Catholicism wining the day.

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Date: 3/1/12 21:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com
It's weird... I got the same instruction in my ninth grade religion class at a Catholic school (run by the Brothers of the Sacred Heart, for those interested). I was of the impression that it was totally non-controversial until this comment thread.

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Date: 3/1/12 19:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
I had my fill of reading Edward Schillebeeckx's books (so big if you dropped them on your foot, you'd need to go to the ER), and a lot of the South American liberation theological books (Gutierrez, Leonardo Boff, etc). I don't know I survived all that reading lol.

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Date: 3/1/12 21:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com
For Contracts, I read a case about a kid who actually saved up for the freakin' Harrier jet pictured in this commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_n5SNrMaL8). Here's a Wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_v._Pepsico,_Inc.) on the case. I loved that one.

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Date: 3/1/12 23:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
I thought for sure you asked why weren't on each other's friends list, but I can't find that comment, but I added you ;)

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Date: 4/1/12 09:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] airiefairie.livejournal.com
Ouch, kitty! That must have hurt. =)

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Date: 3/1/12 20:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
It's also worth noting that the Arian kingdoms that succeeded the Roman Empire weren't exactly friendly to Gnostics, either. This not-so-minor point is the biggest hint that most of that "scholarship" on Gnostics reflects 20th Century politics more than the realities of Late Antiquity religions.

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Date: 3/1/12 21:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
Early Christianity was far more diverse than simply the orthodox vs. the Gnostics. I agree that orthodoxy has its roots in the second century. There is a great deal of detail in the NT about the power plays that went on in the first century. It is pretty easy to see the rise of partisan factions.

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Date: 3/1/12 21:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
True, but the more minor heresies such as Montanism, Docetism, Donatism, and Adoptionism weren't exactly major influences in a lasting sense. Now, Arianism, which was the faith of the post-Roman dynasties in the former Western Empire, and Monophysitism and Iconoclasm, OTOH......

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Date: 4/1/12 03:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Eh, Monophysitism certainly didn't help matters around the time of the rise of Islam, but I'd rate Arianism as the most dangerous heresy of them all, chiefly because for quite some time Europe's political figures were Arians in charge of a mostly-Catholic peasantry, and that's not a recipe for stability. That this changed reflected on the latent strength of Catholicism, there was nothing *guaranteeing* that Europe would not have been akin to Northern Indian states: rulers-aristocrats of one faith, peasants of another (or actually akin to the Kingdom of Prussia, Calvinist monarchs ruling Lutheran masses).

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Date: 4/1/12 17:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
Nobody tops the damage done by orthodoxy. The orthodox established an order of pharisees who used totalitarian thought police tactics to perpetuate their hold on society. The remains of that kind of damage can still be seen today.

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Date: 4/1/12 17:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
God's Chinese Son was no orthodox Christian, and he led the second-bloodiest war in human history overtopped only by WWII.

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Date: 4/1/12 17:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
You are forever attempting to mitigate the viciousness of Christian orthodoxy. Keep rolling the stone up the hill. It will only roll back down again.

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Date: 4/1/12 20:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Nice to know that when it comes to this kind of thing that 40,000,000 Chinese lives are worth less than one offended feeling of someone in the USA, to judge by this nonsense.

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Date: 4/1/12 17:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
"Arianism" is not a coherent school of thought. It is a handle that was used to represent the plethora of people who disagreed with orthodox dogma. Many of the people who stood up for Arius when he was persecuted had little knowledge of what Arius actually represented.

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Date: 4/1/12 17:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Actually it was quite coherent, with its own Bible, its own hierarchy, and for a time territorial control over the North African and Western European territories of the old Roman Empire, save pagan-conquered Britain. Arianism lasted into the Seventh Century and it did for a time rule quite significant amounts of territory, so it's one example of heretics ruling the orthodoxy.

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Date: 4/1/12 17:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
Of course, the school to which you refer was not considered heretical within its own ranks. They saw the orthodox as heretical and criminal to boot.

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Date: 4/1/12 20:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
That has nothing to do with anything I was talking about.

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Date: 3/1/12 20:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Hmm....nah, the only bunch that significantly disagreed on theology was the Gnostics, even the Arians accepted a Father, Son, and Spirit. Arianism also briefly ruled the greater part of the old Roman Empire so this nonsense that the power-brokers of trinitarianism oppressed anyone is a contradiction of the actual facts. The Gnostics also had a tendency to recur in movements like the Cathars in France and Bogomils in the Balkans, so they never really died out at the time people say they did.

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Date: 3/1/12 20:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
This reminds me of Churchill's statement that the best cure for democracy is a conversation with the average voter.

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Date: 3/1/12 21:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com
And this guy, ladies and gentlemen, is going to be a attorney. You know, we joke about conspiracy theorists, we make fun of the kooky idiots who believe the Illuminati actually exist and the New World Order is real. It becomes less amusing, and more frightening, when you realize that some of the people who believe these things aren't, like I said, random nuts on the street, but are professionals, are politicians, are pastors. Are people, therefore, with actual power and influence.

I dunno that the last sentence actually follows. I know they tell all of us aspiring attorneys that we're going to be big important folks, but for every President Obama there are a dozen Orly Taitzes.

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Date: 3/1/12 23:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
Someone on my flist once posted a link to a breakdown of the Masonic symbolism of Lady Gaga's "Bad Romance" video. It went on for pages.

Personally, what's the big deal? They're masons. They lay bricks. I like brick buildings because termites don't. Let them have their cabal-ish fun.

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Date: 4/1/12 01:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] victor-szasz.livejournal.com
he genuinely believes that there is a giant worldwide occult conspiracy whose aim is the destruction of True Christianity™
Shhhhhhh, we're trying to keep it quiet!

Kidding, mostly. I could see it, maybe if I stretched it a bit, but like that VMA's thing, it's a bunk idea. Although, it could be a justified thing given Christianity is responsible for more murders, rapes, torture, and genocides than any other group across the history of the entire planet. You know, back in the days when the Church put the 'thou shalt not kill' on the back burner in order to spread Christianity to the por lost masses.

All those misguided folks that believed in other religions. Those savages that resisted seeing the truth of God. Etc, etc.

I find a small bit of comfort in that all the Christians of the past that committed those atrocities are burning in Hell.

Asa rule you'll find that most crazy nutjobs are completely reasonable, intelligent, well spoken people. It's the fringe element to the crazy nutjobs that make people think crazy nutjobs are supposed to be anything else. I know a guy, well read and quite intelligent, who can go on at length about how the Earth isn't under the control of humanity but a group of alien reptoids that manipulate every detail of all of our lives.

Personally, I'm more inclined to believe Hello Kitty is out to destroy the world.

Going to be a lawyer, eh? No shocker there. Most folks in the legal system have a pretty twisted sense of reality as it is.

I don't know that the Illuminati actually exist today. I do believe there was such an organization once though. Don't mind me though, I'm a nut :)

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Date: 4/1/12 04:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
There actually is a case where Christianity can be said to have done this. The key aspect of this is the Taiping Rebellion, outmatched in simple human bloodshed only by the Second World War and the bloodiest religious war in all of human history. But that war happened at the same time as the US Civil War and so we Yanks usually forget about it.

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Date: 4/1/12 05:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com
I was absolutely shocked at the end of my first final 1L year when my compatriots produced vodka and mixers and started getting drunk in the exam room. Now, my journal has organized, intramural beer pong teams, and I no longer bat an eye at the drunken folks showing up and sleeping through classes.

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