[identity profile] stewstewstewdio.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics

Other states are trying to abolish the death penalty. My state is putting in an express lane – Ron White

When I saw that this was “Bash a Country” month, I was hesitant. I have never travelled internationally and, as an American, I have always been satisfied with my life in America. For this reason, the country I decided to bash is Texas.

This northern suburb of Mexico has a relationship with its southernmost neighbor that is akin to Israel’s relationship with the Palestinians. It is basically, “We will get along just fine as soon as you get the hell out of my neighborhood”. Many believe that Texas is already a part of the United States, albeit resentfully. Texas has tried to distance itself from the US ever since it became our protectorate to prevent Santa Anna’s armies from kicking its ass again. That would make them an AINO, pronounced \ˈā-nəl\, or America In Name Only. Texas has a history of trying to detach from America, but has never done so successfully.

Texas is the home of unbridled bluster. They boast of things other nations would be too embarrassed to claim. Their fare is a faux international cuisine attempt called Tex-Mex. The folksy descriptions of their locales are things like “When you smell shit, you’re in San Antonio. When you step in it, you’re in Rio Grande City”. The Texas death penalty count would probably rival Iran’s. They spend their days in land mass envy toward Alaska.

The United States tolerates Texas for their oil production, much like we do with Saudi Arabia. When Hurricane Ike caused devastation in Texas, President George W. Bush went on a diplomatic mission to his homeland to visit the oil wells and disregarded the residents. Their economy is bolstered by petrol dollars and low unemployment due to a third-world-like wage labor force.

The latest bid for secession was proposed by their current governor, Rick Perry, in 2009. He is now running for President of the United States. It will be interesting to see if he tries to get America to secede from America.

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 12:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com
There have been days when I would happily offer Mexico to take Texas back. The real question is whether the Mexicans would accept.

On the other hand, Texas confuses me. With politicians like George W. and Rick Perry in office, there have to be lots of Texans whose view of the world bothers me, but just about every Texan I have ever met has been just a fine fellow.

Texas -- can we keep the brisket and lose the lunatics?

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 14:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onefatmusicnerd.livejournal.com
Molly Ivins and LBJ are minor deities.

(no subject)

Date: 9/12/11 02:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] musicpsych.livejournal.com
I miss Molly Ivins.

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 15:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com
Also South by Southwest.

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 20:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sealwhiskers.livejournal.com
Most great Texans live in Austin, according to reliable sources, it's supposedly the last bastion of sanity in Texas, or something.

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 20:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com
Of course we do.

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 12:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com
Well, TX is a separate country, kindasorta, innit?
(deleted comment)

(no subject)

Date: 9/12/11 04:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
Hawaii and Texas are the only two states to be recognized as sovreign nations before joining the Union.

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 13:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com
Americans are particularly regionalistic without always wanting to fess up to it. I have never met an Italian national who is not honest about the deep divisions between northern and southern Italy in heritage, cuisine and attitude, but I have had American students get into actually angry arguments about whether or not it is "soda" or "pop" and then question the idea that America is hard to define as a unified culture within five minutes. We are strangely convinced that everyone else is every other region is a weirdo but simultaneously convinced we are all one.

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 14:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
I speak Southern drawl, y'all.

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 15:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com
You should hear the Saffan accent.

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 17:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surferelf.livejournal.com
We speak more than two. I once had to be the translator between my Brooklyn-born stepmother and a gentleman from the hills of West Virginia.

Also, I have noticed that if one wants to sound "authentically" American, one adopts the Oklahoman accent.

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 14:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onefatmusicnerd.livejournal.com
"Soda" v "Pop",

Wow, yankee much?

It is Coke. Orange Coke, Lemon-Lime Coke, Dr. Pepper, it is just Coke.

j/king (well, maybe)

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 14:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com
Hey, we respect trademarked name shortenings in the Northeast.

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 15:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com
And it's not "dungarees"... it's jeans... and only Levi's... with buttons, not a zipper.

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 23:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Keeps the peen from gettin' zipped ;)

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 15:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
I always call it a drink or a soft drink, where is that from?

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 21:20 (UTC)
ext_1565: G's telling the truth about future and technology! (XF-Scully and coffee)
From: [identity profile] normaltrouble.livejournal.com
Soft drink--as opposed to hard drink meaning liquor, and that's probably going back to temperance movements here in the USA.

I say soft drink 50% of the time, soda 50%.

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 21:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Betraying my puritan roots!

(no subject)

Date: 9/12/11 00:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
It's a regional thing. I posted this a few months ago over in [livejournal.com profile] charts_and_maps

Image

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 19:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kurtvonnegut.livejournal.com
i agree. everything is coke. furreal tho. "mom, i'm going to sonic, what kinda coke do you want?"

(no subject)

Date: 9/12/11 22:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onefatmusicnerd.livejournal.com
I just landed at SHV and I am thinking about some sonic, or cane's.

Texas...

Date: 8/12/11 17:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
... competes with Alaska in the bid to host the headquarters of Redneckistan.

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 16:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allhatnocattle.livejournal.com
You ought to see the world, at least travel outside the USA.

Mexico...

Date: 8/12/11 17:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
... is not too far away. It is more foreign than Canada and less foreign than Afghanistan.

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 17:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com
That is, if you go on excursion - as opposed to spending a few weeks or months at a place.

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 17:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
Understanding, maybe not. Adding some precious perspective - for sure!

After Afghanistan and Iraq...

Date: 8/12/11 17:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
I am all in favor of spreading democracy to areas that are dominated by religious extremists. That is why Texas should be next on the list for democratization.

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 18:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paedraggaidin.livejournal.com
I'd comment, but all my Texan classmates are watching me and would drag me behind one of their absurdly huge pickup tr--

*engine roar*

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 21:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] politikitty.livejournal.com
Having moved from Houston, TX to San Francisco, CA, I have to call bullshit.

We have a dysfunctional state government. Our constitution actually says the governor can't be an atheist. We pay our legislators about 7k a year, and they're only in session every other year. So 1) even when liberal policy gains the support of the populace, we don't have the legislative resources to enact it. And 2) the people who can afford to be in public service tend to be wealthier and more conservative than the rest of the state.

For Rick Perry, I think most of his evangelical rhetoric as a useful lie. One that he might act on as President. But considering the ease in which mini-DOMA passed in Texas, he could easily push for ballot initiatives on fetal personhood, partial birth abortion bans and other conservative favorites. Instead he backed "Listen to the heartbeat before you kill your unborn child". Annoying legislation. Degrading to women. But it hardly limits the ability of a woman to commit (what he sees as) murder. So you should legitimately question how strongly he's concerned about this liberal genocide of fetuses. If you want more evidence of his weak beliefs, he worked for Al Gore's presidential campaign in 1988 and only switched to the Republican party in 1989 long after most other Southern Conservatives had abandoned the Democratic Party.

That's not to doubt his commitment to serving the Republican Party. They're getting him elected, and the political favors he owes them are plentiful enough to overshadow any Democratic values he might be hiding in his power-hungry soul.

But in Texas, a lot of conservatism is political theatre rather than conservative values. There's a compartmentalization they're able to do that you don't see in a lot of Southern states. In Houston there's a vast number of conservatives who didn't see the conflict in voting for mini-DOMA while voting a high-profile lesbian into office. I did not see any serious media campaign attacking Anise Parker for her civil union, the adoption of her two daughters and fostering a son. So while I can disagree strongly with the resulting conservative policy decisions, I find it hard to attribute their intolerant policy decisions with actually being intolerant.

They direct their conservative intolerance towards mythical people, and most of the time it evaporates when confronted with individual gays, blacks, immigrants, etc. I find it hypocritical and distasteful from a policy perspective. But there is comfort to be had in how shallow their conservative beliefs are. That most still leaves a fair amount of people for whom I'm eternally embarrassed to share a state with. Especially since white supremecists like the ones who brutally murdered James Byrd get air time disproportionate to their share of the population. But the broad strokes with which you paint the state would blame San Francisco voters for both the Reagan and Nixon presidency.

Oh. And Texas' view on immigration? So much more evolved than other border states and even the rest of nation. Our politicians have long been aware of the 'sleeping giant' of hispanic demographics, and as such try to treat the population with respect. As a liberal, it isn't where I want either policy or respect to be. But most of the nation isn't either. I'm constantly disappointed in how isolated and self-segregated parts of this nation are that I was led to believe are the bastions of acceptance and tolerance.

(no subject)

Date: 8/12/11 22:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lions-wings.livejournal.com
Instead he backed "Listen to the heartbeat before you kill your unborn child". Annoying legislation. Degrading to women. But it hardly limits the ability of a woman to commit (what he sees as) murder.

That's still an enormous condemnation, and nothing better.

(no subject)

Date: 9/12/11 05:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allhatnocattle.livejournal.com
"I'm constantly disappointed in how isolated and self-segregated parts of this nation are that I was led to believe are the bastions of acceptance and tolerance."

Yeah, well nobody in SanFrancisco talks about what happened to the city's Black neighbourhoods. (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-08-26-urban-blacks_N.htm)

Credits & Style Info

Talk Politics.

A place to discuss politics without egomaniacal mods


MONTHLY TOPIC:

Failed States

DAILY QUOTE:
"Someone's selling Greenland now?" (asthfghl)
"Yes get your bids in quick!" (oportet)
"Let me get my Bid Coins and I'll be there in a minute." (asthfghl)

June 2025

M T W T F S S
       1
2 34 5 678
910 1112131415
16171819202122
23242526272829
30