Oakland's 14th and Broadway murderer caught in Kentucky.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Turns out the murderer was not associated with the occupy camp..

OAKLAND -- A man arrested last weekend in Kentucky, where he had fled, was charged Thursday with fatally shooting a man Nov. 10 near the Occupy Oakland encampment near City Hall moments after the victim was severely beaten by others, police said. Norris Terrell, 20, of Oakland, is charged with one count of murder in the killing of Kayode O. Foster, 25, who police said he did not know. Terrell also was charged with firing into an occupied dwelling and injuring someone for the previously undisclosed wounding of a credit union teller hit by a bullet that went through a building window after it missed Foster, police said. The woman was grazed on the arm. Police said Terrell is on probation for robbery. Three other men associated with Terrell were charged last month with assault in the beating of Foster before he was shot, authorities said. They were identified as Joseph Gholston, 32, Excell McKinley, 20, and Carleon Roberson, 18, all of Oakland. Neither Foster nor any of the men charged were affiliated with Occupy Oakland. But Foster and Gholston were known to have spent time at the encampment, with Foster giving people there a different name. The fatal shooting apparently stemmed from a dispute Gholston got into Nov. 10, possibly over alcohol, with some people at the encampment who were not involved with the movement, authorities said. Terrell, McKinley and Roberson went to the camp when Gholston called them for help. There may have been other accomplices, whom police are trying to identify. They were looking for the people Gholston had gotten into the dispute with when they came across Foster near 14th Street and Broadway. Foster may have had nothing to do with the prior dispute, authorities said. But Foster was attacked and beaten, punched and kicked. Some people from the encampment tried to stop the attack, and when Foster started to flee, he was shot, Officer Robert Trevino said. He died later at a hospital. At least six shots were fired, one going through a window at the Western Federal Credit Union, 140 Frank H. Ogawa Plaza, and wounding the teller. Authorities said a video provided by someone in the area at the time of the shooting helped identify Gholston, who has three prior felony drug convictions.

Its no longer reasonable to suggest the murder had anything to do with the Occupy protest other than proximity. It would have happened without Occupy existing - just like all the shootings which happened in the same area during previous years. Just like the WalMart shooting happened last black Friday. Just like the more recent shooting of eight people including a 1 year old critically injured happened. Oakland has chronic gun violence. You never see the NRA at the funerals or hospitals helping the victims, but they are sure at the local gun shows.

Good on the OPD for catching the perp and cheers to the protester who provided the video which helped catch the murderer.

Comments

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Truer words have not been posted.

[op-tech-glitch.livejournal.com]

Berkeley has way more of the latter. And better.

[soliloquy76.livejournal.com]

HA

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Surely with this revelation, all the air has gone out of the sails?

[blue-mangos.livejournal.com]

Certain parts of the post as written may be that but the overall point and the article itself are very useful. I've been waiting to hear more details of the crime, and news of an actual arrest so this is helpful.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

It was more than BDJ. In fact, BDJ was the most reserved stating that he did not in fact blame occupy in the last thread. Largely due to your dialogue, so thanks.

The "occupy murder" itself was indeed a country wide media meme.

[fizzyland.livejournal.com]

BUT ANY CRIME IN THE AREA OF AN OWS PROTEST PROVES THAT IT'S NOT A PEACEFUL GATHERING!! Oh, wait.

In Los Angeles, the daily news interrupted their Kardashian coverage to show SWAT guys in full tac evacuating the ows camp at City Hall. Also, having a lot of chronic, there were 200 arrests and no violence.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

I heard the arrests were 350. Eeek.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Good to hear. Looks like the initial reports were wrong on this, as was I.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

That's your call.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Indeed. If you want to remain wrong, do so.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

I'll leave my speculation to myself in this instance.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

I do find this hedging amusing, though: "Neither Foster nor any of the men charged were affiliated with Occupy Oakland. But Foster and Gholston were known to have spent time at the encampment, with Foster giving people there a different name." So someone stays in the encampment, an encampment which is fundamental to the movement, but we're not going to say they're part of the movement.

Sounds pretty shady, but whatever.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Perhaps. But when you're actually part of the encampment...

Whatever. The authorities are confident now that they're not involved, it's good enough for me at this point. If the facts get adjusted again, I'll respond accordingly.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

With Occupy Oakland, the encampment served food to hardcore homeless. Food not Bombs food. So, at any time, the occupy oakland camp was caring for 30 or 40 homeless people.

[blue-mangos.livejournal.com]

Well a lot of homeless people have been using the camps as a safe place to stay. They're not necessarily involved in the movement. I don't know if this is the case here but it might explain it.

[gunslnger.livejournal.com]

You're not making any sense.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

It's almost certainly the case here, and it raises the question yet again - given that the encampments are fundamental to the movement, given that they're trying to create their own little autonomous societies in the encampments, given that they claim to represent all of the 99%, I'm not sure how we can say that they're not part of the movement, but whatever. The police can't even find a way to say it anymore, so...

[blue-mangos.livejournal.com]

I imagine it's more of a self-identification thing, and whether they participate in the protests or just hang in the crowd for shelter and food. But the movement does represent them, and everyone in the 99% whether everyone wants it or not ;o)

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Its pretty safe to say that anyone committing acts of violence against people, especially rape and murder, is not part of the movement and in fact is wittingly or unwittingly working against it.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Occupy Oakland did a better job at feeding those people than the city was doing.

[soliloquy76.livejournal.com]

I think the distinction is pretty clear, and you obviously see it. There isn't really much they can do about this given the nature of the protest.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Then that's a pretty significant problem with the protest, isn't it?

[soliloquy76.livejournal.com]

Perhaps, but it's no more a problem than that of society as a whole. Lots of decent people, and a few assholes who have to ruin it for everyone.

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

Oh, have no fear, he'll be associated with OWS by the conservative media machine. Such humble matters as truth or what he is or is not connected to won't, never have, and never will matter to the people who claim Oliver North and Pat Buchanan represent traditional democratic, US patriotism.

[korean-guy-01.livejournal.com]

Firearms were at an Occupy event? WTF!

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

If they're no problem at Tea Party rallies they shouldn't be a problem here, either. If they're a problem here so should they be there.