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It is neither wealth nor splendor; but tranquility and occupation which give you happiness. - Thomas Jefferson

Once again, the private sector has shot itself in the foot with a bazooka and has nobody but itself to blame. This is yet another story in the ongoing aftermath of the financial meltdown of 2008.

According to a report in the New York Times, banks are complaining that they are deluged with excessive amounts of cash coming into their coffers. In this risk averse environment, investors are pulling their cash out of investments and putting it into banks. Banks aren’t lending; citing a dearth of credit worthy borrowers. As a result, the cash being stored in the banks is remaining dormant and not producing profit for the banks through loans.

Just as was proposed with fees on debit cards, banks are inflicting their misfortunes on the customers. Per the New York Times article:

“In August, Bank of New York Mellon warned that it would impose a 0.13 percentage point fee on the deposits of certain clients who were moving huge piles of cash in and out of their accounts.

Others are finding more subtle ways to stem the flow. Besides paying next to nothing on consumer checking accounts and certificates of deposit, some giants — like JPMorgan Chase, U.S. Bancorp and Wells Fargo — are passing along part of the cost of federal deposit insurance to some of their small-business customers. “

To safeguard their funds and draw some profit from it, Don Sturm, owner of American National Bank and Premier Bank in Colorado and 3 other states, is keeping his funds in familiar safe harbors:

“His next option is to invest those deposits in low-risk securities, like mortgage bonds backed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which in recent years paid as much as 3.75 percent. Today, they are paying, on average, less than 1.15 percent. Deposits parked at the Fed fetch a mere quarter of a percentage point. Federal deposit insurance premiums and other account maintenance costs cut deeply into his returns.”

I find it ironic that banks are running to the shelter of the same institutions they exploited for profit before the credit meltdown. Apparently Fannie and Freddie can be stable if they aren’t treated like toxic waste dumps by financial institutions.

If ever there was an opportunity for consumer backlash against big corporate wealth, this is it. If a large portion of consumers would transfer their cash from large banks to credit unions, it would send a painful message to the “too big to fail” institutions. The OWS "Bank Transfer Day" campaign is Nov. 5. The problem would be that ATM access is not as easily and cheaply accessible as the larger institutions.

Contrary to popular belief, cash does not equal wealth. Equity equals wealth. Equity is defined as the difference between assets (what you own) and liabilities (what you owe). Money is only one of any number of assets that can be owned. Credit came to a standstill because it was discovered that credit (liabilities) had exceeded available liquid assets in the U.S. in 2008. Private enterprise was in hock up to its eyeballs and there weren’t enough private funds available to fix it. That is why TARP and bailouts were necessary.

The government has done all it can for the economy whether you agree or not. It is time for the private sector to take their thumbs out of their asses and quit waiting for someone else’s shoe to drop. Investing by the public in more local and smaller scale financial institutions could be a grass roots opportunity to start doing this.

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Date: 3/11/11 14:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
I smell of another bailout in the future.

Not as long as Republicans hold a house in Congress.
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Date: 3/11/11 14:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terminator44.livejournal.com
Under which president did the bailouts happen, again?

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Date: 3/11/11 14:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eracerhead.livejournal.com
I didn't know this was news, it was reported in the liberal press a month or two ago.

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Date: 4/11/11 03:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eracerhead.livejournal.com
I don't remember exactly but I think it was Michael Moore on MSNBC before the OWS coverage went mainstream.

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Date: 3/11/11 14:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
The government has done all it can for the economy whether you agree or not.

And therein lies the problem. The government really needs to back off and let the private sector do its work as opposed to the heavy economic engineering we've seen the last few years.

That's the relationship, right there. You want to know why lending is down, why the environment is risk-averse? There you go.

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Date: 3/11/11 14:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
Uh. The private sector... has a shitload of money... and they're not lending it to anyone... so they aren't making any money from it... so they're whining to the government. How did you get what you said from that?
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Date: 3/11/11 16:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
It's all about being risk averse in an unpredictable, private-sector-hostile governmental situation.

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Date: 3/11/11 16:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
The government hasn't been stopping the private sector from doing their work.

Sure. The government hasn't been intervening in private markets, bailing out failing players, adding more and more regulations to an already-strained climate, crowding out with ill-thought-out stimulus boondoggles (and asking for more!).

No, I can't think of a single reason why the private sector should be hesitant.

The market was risk averse before the new financial regulations and the government was encouraging lending for refinance to avoid foreclosure where reasonably possible.

Why make the same mistake twice? Better to hold off lending to most people instead of running into problems again, right?

Besides, the Fed rates continue to be artificially low to try to loosen credit. It isn't the government that is standing in the way. It is the private sector.

Because the only lending incentive is low rates.

The financial regulations have been put in place so that we don't have the environment in place that caused all the free market abuse that happened during the Bush administration.

[citation needed] on free market abuse.

Besides, the answer to regulatory overcompensation is not more regulations.
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Date: 3/11/11 17:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soliloquy76.livejournal.com
Not entirely. The Fed is making it more profitable for banks to sit on money rather than lend it out. On the other hand, people are borrowing less because of the poor economy and better money management. Overall, I'll agree that government needs to back off a bit on the economic engineering. I'm all for smart and preventative regulation, though.
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Date: 3/11/11 18:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
Not entirely. The Fed is making it more profitable for banks to sit on money rather than lend it out.

I know the Fed is technically not the government, but...

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Date: 4/11/11 12:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
The government really needs to back off and let the private sector do its work as opposed to the heavy economic engineering we've seen the last few years.

^Until this concept meets another Madoff and Ken Lay, neither of whom will ever be caught in a real free market.

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Date: 3/11/11 14:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
Wait, let me see if I have this correct: Banks... are whining to the Federal government... because they have too much money and **THEY** aren't doing anything with it?

Oooooooooooooooooooo-KAY.

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Date: 3/11/11 15:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Well, sounds like the CEOs are being whiny little brats again. And you can take that to the bank.

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Date: 3/11/11 15:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 404.livejournal.com
Too bad your return will be less than .5% on it.
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