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Anti-Americanism. How often does it come up around here in one form or another? Fairly often, from where I sit but that's admittedly subjective. And while it's easy to grumble about America and make jokes, just how many people out there honestly don't like the United States?

Turns out, not as many people as you might think.

Of the countries surveyed, 18 hold predominantly positive views of the US, seven hold negative views and two are divided. On average , 49 per cent of people have positive views of US influence in the world--up four points from 2010--and 31 per cent hold negative views. The poll, conducted by GlobeScan/PIPA, asked a total of 28,619 people to rate the influence in the world of 16 major nations, plus the European Union.

In 2007 a slight majority (54%) had a negative view of the United States and only close to three in ten (28%) had a positive view; America was among the countries with the lowest ratings. Views began to rise in 2008, with positive views rising to 32% on average, and now the USA is in a middle tier position, ranking substantially higher than China.


A 49% approval rating would be pretty good for most politicians. Just under half the world thinking America is a positive influence in the world is great given that we were led by a bungler of legend for eight years who excelled at making Americans traveling overseas start sewing Canadian flags onto their clothing.

*ahem*

But let's look at these numbers a bit more.

As views of the USA continue to improve globally, the upwards trend is also apparent in Muslim countries. For the first time, a majority of Indonesians are now positive about the USA's role in the world (58%, a rise of 22 points over the last year). Negative views of the USA in Turkey have dropped sharply from 70 per cent to 49 per cent, while negative views in Pakistan of the USA have also fallen slightly, from 52 per cent to 46 per cent.


Wow, even Muslim countries are generally cool with us. That is *fantastic* given recent history.

So what does this all mean? IMO, in spite of all the snide jokes that get tossed around people seem to think that America is out there doing good. We blow it sometimes, sure, but we do try. And in this day and age it's good to know that not everyone is down on the place you call home and that America still means something good to a lot of people.




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Date: 12/10/11 11:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
Too many people too often confuse the attitude to the American people with the attitude to American foreign policy. Disagreeing and/or opposing some American policies (foreign policies, or even internal policies) is one thing, and being "cool" with most American people is quite another. So when I'm asked "do they/you disapprove/dislike/hate America", the natural counter-question is: which side of America? Because "America" can mean a lot of things, it has many faces and many manifestations.

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Date: 12/10/11 14:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
Too true. That's a consequence of the confusion that I'm talking about. Because it works both ways. I mean there are too many Americans who feel they're hated somehow, on a personal level, because of the policies of their leaders. And, as you've demonstrated in your post, that's not necessarily the case.

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Date: 12/10/11 20:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sealwhiskers.livejournal.com
I have to disagree. Of all people I've seen abroad, Americans are the ones getting most slack. It's literally like they are seen on a different measuring scale than the rest of the world, and the measurements are to the advantage of them - often undeserving.

This whole thing reads a little like privileged whining.

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Date: 12/10/11 22:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sealwhiskers.livejournal.com
More times than you'd care to know...

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Date: 15/10/11 15:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-mangos.livejournal.com
Panookah sez: Those Swedes!!!! They make me so angry!!!

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Date: 12/10/11 22:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sealwhiskers.livejournal.com
..and my Russian scientist friend in the US could tell you some stories, not only of his own but for a lot of foreign ppl in the US.

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Date: 12/10/11 11:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
I like BigMac. But don't tell anybody.

They are...

Date: 12/10/11 17:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
... decadently yummy! If given the choice between a Big Mac and a banitsa, I would go for the latter.

Re: They are...

Date: 12/10/11 17:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
Banitsa is way better (and healthier), especially when combined with boza. But I still like the Mac.

Re: They are...

Date: 12/10/11 18:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lai-choi-san.livejournal.com
I will always remember my first BigMac : most exotic gastronomic experience ever.

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Date: 12/10/11 18:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sealwhiskers.livejournal.com
I prefer whopper by far, if I have to do the chain food cultural choice. And in Sweden I go to Max - a great burger chain from northern Sweden that out conquered mcdonalds some years ago.

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Date: 12/10/11 18:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terminator44.livejournal.com
Eh, there are much better places to get a burger in the U.S. itself. If you ever visit, you should try Steak & Shake sometime.

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Date: 13/10/11 16:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
My belly agrees with that message.
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From: [identity profile] sealwhiskers.livejournal.com
hm..I think there is plenty of nuveau nobility in the US, dirtying up money alright. Just not royal or British.
From: [identity profile] sealwhiskers.livejournal.com
However oddly it feels to defend Canada, I have to say that if it isn't clear that Canada and Australia have that as a cultural curiosity nowadays and nothing else, then the fault is in the eye of the observer.
From: [identity profile] sealwhiskers.livejournal.com
Well, I don't particularly like the old bat or anything, so sure, theories on brain manipulation are amusing.

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Date: 12/10/11 12:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Mass media is sensationalistic and presents distorted view of the world? Someone stop the presses!

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Date: 12/10/11 16:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sealwhiskers.livejournal.com
I think it is quite naive to not link this upward trend to the end of the Bush era and quite a bit to Obama. I am not a "fan" of any president, Obama included, but the shift from whatever Bush can be called, to the present president has done immensely to the image of the US abroad.

Now, what *I* hear quite a bit, both in this community and outside it, is how the US couldn't care less what other nations think of it, and *shouldn't care two tosses either.

Making a f*****ng huge poll about it does send pretty bipolar signals when it comes to this legendary indifference.

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Date: 12/10/11 16:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com
I care what other people (not nations) think of us. Americans going abroad would be advised not to try spreading the mythical concept of American exceptionalism. It just pisses folks off.

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Date: 12/10/11 16:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paedraggaidin.livejournal.com
>> Now, what *I* hear quite a bit, both in this community and outside it, is how the US couldn't care less what other nations think of it, and *shouldn't care two tosses either.

Unfortunately, there is too much of that among we Yanks. And, meaning no offense to anyone, in my experience the kind of people who express such things are the kind who slavishly watch reality TV, subscribe to People Magazine, and know everything there is to know about who's doing what in Hollywood these days, but who can't be bothered to vote and only watch the news for the sports and entertainment segments. These folks don't even know what's going on in other American states, to say nothing of other countries.

What sucks is that all too often it's them who folks from other countries see as "typical Americans."

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Date: 12/10/11 22:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sealwhiskers.livejournal.com
Well, nothing in your post actually says a word about bbc, should I cut and paste your link however, it leads to world public opinion.org and there is the logo and the explanation, so yeah, it's their annual poll.

Which means that

a) there are a *lot* of countries which don't participate

b) the poll is not about the US, the US is about as popular as Brazil and the UK is much more popular - according to this poll.

A bipolar reaction is still a bipolar reaction. The level the articles on google are yapping on about the US, when in fact it is not about them primarily at all.

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Date: 12/10/11 22:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sealwhiskers.livejournal.com
Sure, but it was pretty uninteresting even after reading it. BBC does this poll every year and its results are pretty whatever. It shows some big trends when they are really big, but the rest says mostly nothing about real opinions of the world.

What a difference a presidency makes!

Date: 12/10/11 17:09 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
Although Obama has not completely redeemed America from the depths of Bushism, he did come out of the gate with a strong policy of reconciliation. At least he admits to errors where others see only perfection.

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Date: 12/10/11 17:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvdovz.livejournal.com
Redemption is in the eyes of the beholder.
From: [identity profile] terminator44.livejournal.com
Reconciliation usually means you stop doing the things you're trying to reconcile for.
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
Under Bushism, Mubarak would still be in power in Egypt.

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Date: 13/10/11 04:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyxelestia.livejournal.com
Quoting Cracked.com, I presume?

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Date: 13/10/11 06:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/-wanderer-/
While abroad, the only person I ever had treat me poorly because of being an American was an Israeli. That didn't really seem fair to me, for some reason.

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Date: 13/10/11 15:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com
Don't feel bad. Israelis are notoriously the most rude people on the planet.

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Date: 13/10/11 23:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
You anti-semite!

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