paft: Do you consider that the equivalent of a "ticker tape parade?" Or is it perhaps your premise that a mere guitar maker doesn't warrant the healthcare that might very well have saved his life? -- mvl What I'm saying is that she's acting like the world owed him because he worked for a living. What makes him any better than a guy working behind the counter at 7-11?
He was her brother and plainly special to her, but I see no sign that she considers her brother any more deserving of basic healthcare than the guy "working the counter at 7-11." It looks to me like you're straining to find something to carp about.
Paft Why would that get under your skin? Do you begrudge him even that much care? -- mvl: I don't begrudge him anything. He's no longer on this Earth. If he were, I'd want him to get the best health care possible, and I would have wanted the same for my grandmother.
So why does the fact that he was getting care at a county nursing home, presumably paid for by taxes "get under [your] skin?"
Paft: What exactly are you implying here? mvl: I'm implying that his sister feels guilt-ridden that she couldn't do more for her brother and instead of facing any reality that his cancer may have been too far gone, she's projecting and blaming everyone else for something that couldn't be helped.
Prompt diagnosis and treatment of cancer can most certainly make a difference in the outcome. Her brother's diagnosis and treatment were significantly delayed because he had no health insurance. Ascribing her very natural and understandable anger over this delay to personal guilt is a hell of a stretch.
mvl: My grandmother was diagnosed in February 2006...
Was she unable to get in to a doctor to check on her symptoms because she had no health insurance? Was her diagnosis and treatment significantly delayed because of this?
I'm willing to bet, by the way, that most of us past a certain age have had relatives or friends who died of cancer. Nobody is claiming that a reformed healthcare system will eliminate such deaths. We simply ask that victims beg given a fighting chance through prompt diagnosis and treatment.
mvl: Susan's story is just another of the many horror stories of cancer, and if Obamacare is as good as everyone says it is...
"Everyone?" Including tea partiers? including the people cheering on the idea of allowing the uninsured to die?
MVL: I understand that's too little, too late for her, but what more do you want?
A better healthcare system that includes a public option. I'd also like some sign of common decency from the Republican "base," the people who have gone on record cheering deaths and mocking Parkinson's victims, but that's probably hoping for too much.
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Re: Oh brother, is there no end to the disingeuousness of political animals?
Date: 20/9/11 16:42 (UTC)mvl What I'm saying is that she's acting like the world owed him because he worked for a living. What makes him any better than a guy working behind the counter at 7-11?
He was her brother and plainly special to her, but I see no sign that she considers her brother any more deserving of basic healthcare than the guy "working the counter at 7-11." It looks to me like you're straining to find something to carp about.
Paft Why would that get under your skin? Do you begrudge him even that much care? --
mvl: I don't begrudge him anything. He's no longer on this Earth. If he were, I'd want him to get the best health care possible, and I would have wanted the same for my grandmother.
So why does the fact that he was getting care at a county nursing home, presumably paid for by taxes "get under [your] skin?"
Paft: What exactly are you implying here?
mvl: I'm implying that his sister feels guilt-ridden that she couldn't do more for her brother and instead of facing any reality that his cancer may have been too far gone, she's projecting and blaming everyone else for something that couldn't be helped.
Prompt diagnosis and treatment of cancer can most certainly make a difference in the outcome. Her brother's diagnosis and treatment were significantly delayed because he had no health insurance. Ascribing her very natural and understandable anger over this delay to personal guilt is a hell of a stretch.
mvl: My grandmother was diagnosed in February 2006...
Was she unable to get in to a doctor to check on her symptoms because she had no health insurance? Was her diagnosis and treatment significantly delayed because of this?
I'm willing to bet, by the way, that most of us past a certain age have had relatives or friends who died of cancer. Nobody is claiming that a reformed healthcare system will eliminate such deaths. We simply ask that victims beg given a fighting chance through prompt diagnosis and treatment.
mvl: Susan's story is just another of the many horror stories of cancer, and if Obamacare is as good as everyone says it is...
"Everyone?" Including tea partiers? including the people cheering on the idea of allowing the uninsured to die?
MVL: I understand that's too little, too late for her, but what more do you want?
A better healthcare system that includes a public option. I'd also like some sign of common decency from the Republican "base," the people who have gone on record cheering deaths and mocking Parkinson's victims, but that's probably hoping for too much.