I am simply saying that Jesus did not abuse any of his disciples, and there is therefore no excuse for the church to be abusive towards their membership.
You : I found the theology around the T/B traumatic. Me: meeting Jesus was not a traumatic experience for most. ANM: It was, in lots of ways, for his Apostles. Me : But how much of that came directly from Jesus , and how much from people outside His circle? Compare this to churches directly responsible for abuse themselves.
Go where you want from here, but I don't see Christ as an abuser myself. I think he suffered a lot at the hands of others, and he tells us that following Him will cause us to suffer as well, but I don't think He causes any of it, and nor should his church , if acting in accord with His teachings .
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Date: 29/7/11 07:20 (UTC)I am simply saying that Jesus did not abuse any of his disciples, and there is therefore no excuse for the church to be abusive towards their membership.
You : I found the theology around the T/B traumatic.
Me: meeting Jesus was not a traumatic experience for most.
ANM: It was, in lots of ways, for his Apostles.
Me : But how much of that came directly from Jesus , and how much from people outside His circle? Compare this to churches directly responsible for abuse themselves.
Go where you want from here, but I don't see Christ as an abuser myself. I think he suffered a lot at the hands of others, and he tells us that following Him will cause us to suffer as well, but I don't think He causes any of it, and nor should his church , if acting in accord with His teachings .