[identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
Historic and fabulous descriptions of human sacrifice present us with a wide variety of ritual practices. In one of them, a wicker statue is set on fire with a victim trapped inside (see Nicholas Cage). In another a human being is used by a priest for the practice of divination ala haruspices. Yet another has a priest plunging a dagger into the breast of an all-too willing victim. We are all familiar with the image of the woman being tied to a stake to propitiate the Vatican:
Yet another wise woman dispatched to marry Jesus.

Caesar had an entire town burned to the ground with the order that no slaves were to be taken nor any plunder seized. His reason for such an outrage was to prove his detractors wrong about his motives. Instead of thinking he was in it for the money, they were subsequently convinced that he was mentally deranged. He was not alone in his madness: Assyrian kings had reputations for similar acts of human sacrifice.

Worshipers of Caesar might claim that his was not a ritual because he only did it once. He had to teach those pesky Celts a lesson so that they would stop insulting the honor of the People of Rome. It was an unfortunate consequence of a war that Caesar did not start in the first place. Caesar had to show the Germans that he was not afraid to use force. Had those Gallic folk not been fried, more would have died later along with Roman soldiers. We have heard these excuses before and we will hear them again.

Thomas Szasz wrote a book about a modern day priesthood practicing human sacrifice. Ceremonial Chemistry shows us the dark side of the medical profession. These doctors profess to be scientists but their protocols are thoroughly unscientific. They adhere to an ancient doctrine that disturbances of the mind have their foundation in the balance of bodily fluids. If anyone tells you that your sorrow is caused by a chemical imbalance, they are either a human sacrificer seeking to stab you in the back with a chemical dependency, or they are under the spell of such a charlatan.
Don't let it bring you down
It's only castles burning
Find someone who's turning
And you will come around

What other forms of human sacrifice can we see going on around us?

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Date: 28/6/11 15:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Your altar needs giant horns and torches, and a bunch of guys chanting ominously. Also, it's good to have steps for the blood to run down. Its a nice effect.

Re: You sound as though...

Date: 28/6/11 15:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Second hand, I swear!

Re: You sound as though...

Date: 28/6/11 23:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malakh-abaddon.livejournal.com
No but I can, and he is right. Steps for the blood to run down, a bunch of people chanting ominously, either cloaked or naked, with black candles on the alter, which resembles Lucifer. You also need some farm animals, which well be devoured after the ceremony.

Re: You sound as though...

Date: 29/6/11 12:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Eh, Pennywise, Pound foolish.

Re: You sound as though...

Date: 29/6/11 15:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malakh-abaddon.livejournal.com
I am not surprised about McDonalds, but I must say that place must have changed a lot since I was last in one 20 years ago.
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Re: No need to...

Date: 28/6/11 23:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/-wanderer-/
Definitions of mental disorders are actually pretty fluid. There is lots of controversy.

Re: No need to...

Date: 29/6/11 14:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
Watch out for black bile diagnosis.

wat

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Date: 28/6/11 16:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
I approve the alleged sacrificing of Nic Cage
Image

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Date: 28/6/11 19:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] root-fu.livejournal.com
Excellent. Most excellent.

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Date: 28/6/11 18:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
See, the thing about Julius Caesar was that he was really a good general, from the Roman sense where genocide was unsporting, but effective. The persecution of women in witch-huntings was much more a Protestant than a Catholic thing. The concept of witchcraft was heresy to Medieval Catholicism, due to over-amplifying the power of the Devil.

In terms of the USA of the 21st Century, the horrible thing about modern war is that modern firepower makes war without civilian casualties an impossibility. It's why we need war for a damn good reason, some idea of victory, and also an idea of how to leave. Unfortunately Bush and Obama haven't exactly been good at any of those things.

good old days of Holy War ...

Date: 28/6/11 18:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] russj.livejournal.com
The only war with clear objectives and understandable rules is the Holy War:
of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee
(Old Testament | Deuteronomy 20:16 - 17)

Re: good old days of Holy War ...

Date: 28/6/11 18:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
The problem with that is that Holy Wars tend to be conducted like regular wars, but with moar atrocities.

Re: Good point.

Date: 28/6/11 19:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Er.....no, actually the Catholic Church was not quite as repressive of Medieval science as it's made out to be. It was moreso of Early Modern Science, but that was more about the potential challenge to Church authority than against science itself (fortunately Protestants had been declawed already so they weren't able to make their prejudices into auto-de-fes).

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Date: 29/6/11 04:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harry-beast.livejournal.com
Civilian casualties predate modern firepower and have always been a part of war. And war has always been horrible.

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Date: 29/6/11 13:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Only to an extent. For an entire 1,000 year span and for several centuries into the Early Modern era, only the really *long* wars (or Indian Wars in North and South America) put targeting civilians into things. There was once a time when war really *was* the sport of kings, fought according to strict rules. There were also a lot more wars then though they were more bloodless. War has always been horrible, yes, but sometimes you have the 18th Century bloodless wars and sometimes a Thirty Years' War or Axis-Soviet War.

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Date: 28/6/11 18:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
Dropping bombs on Libyians for Oil Great Justice!

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Date: 28/6/11 20:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] root-fu.livejournal.com
Its only a sacrifice if human life is deemed to have value.

Such is not always the case.

Re: You bring to mind...

Date: 30/6/11 00:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] root-fu.livejournal.com
Whoa. I suspect someone's giving me too much credit. Thanks, though. =:D

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Date: 29/6/11 14:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
These doctors profess to be scientists but their protocols are thoroughly unscientific. They adhere to an ancient doctrine that disturbances of the mind have their foundation in the balance of bodily fluids. If anyone tells you that your sorrow is caused by a chemical imbalance,

Let's not confuse the Four Humors Theory with actual Biochemistry.

Re: Let's also not...

Date: 29/6/11 23:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
I'm not saying ALL mood disturbances have biochemical roots, but I would say most of them do.

Re: Let's also not...

Date: 30/6/11 03:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me or not.

Re: Let's also not...

Date: 30/6/11 17:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
So, my claim is: Most mood disturbances have biochemical roots.

You disagree with that.

Just making that perfectly clear before I got fetch my box of leeches to get the bad blood out of your system.

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