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Since June is a month dedicated to science and technology themed posts, I thought this was newsworthy. A huge explosion on the Sun's surface was recorded earlier today. As Discovery Magazine notes on their website.


What you’re seeing here is a solar flare (an enormous explosion of pent-up magnetic energy) coupled with a prominence (a physical eruption of gas from the surface). This event blasted something like a billion tons of material away from the Sun. Note the size of it, too: while it started from a small region on the Sun’s surface, it quickly expanded into a plume easily as big as the Sun itself! I’d estimate its size at well over a million kilometers across [the Earth is a mere 8,000 Km in width]. It looks like most of the material fell back down to the Sun’s surface; that’s common, though sometimes such an event manages to blast the material completely away into space.




Last year, NASA issued a high level alert that 2012 would see large Solar storms, possibly one of the largest, with the potential to cause nearly trillions of dollars in damage to communications satellites, communications, computer systems, the International Space Station and its inhabitants would be at risk, and these storms could even knock out some electrical grids around the world for up to several years. And this isn't idle speculation: several years ago, 14 power stations in South Africa were knocked out by massive Solar flares; in the mid 19th century, a storm was powerful enough to knock out telegraphs in the United States. Michio Kaku appeared on Fox News last year when the first warnings were issued, and since then, NASA has ramped up the warnings. And is able to explain the circumstances surrounding the storm. I'm not sure if Congress ever passed the minimum package meant to beef up protection for the power grids, but in this political climate, I'd be surprised if it did. As some of the hosts on Fox News commented: the story reminded them a bit of Y2K. But one of the reasons why Y2K turned out as well as it did was precisely because precautions were taken. And I guess the analogy for purchasing insurance would work in this instance: it's a pain in the ass, but you buy it to cover your butt when something unpredictable happens; but these Solar storms ARE predictable in a sense, and our infrastructure needs better protection anyway. It's a win-win situation.




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Date: 8/6/11 01:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
Solar-warming is a hoax.

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Date: 8/6/11 01:31 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
Reports that the Sun is "warming" are just that: reports, nothing more.
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Date: 8/6/11 07:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
Ironically, that would result in the Sun baking us (in case we're still around by that time).

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Date: 8/6/11 01:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
Is it possible? Yes. If we get a head's up about a strong aurora event, it'll get through the city's light pollution. Me? I never catch it.

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Date: 8/6/11 07:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
Fun fact: the northern magnetic pole is so tilted toward Canada/US that you could see aurora in NYC while you'd seldom see one in Siberia.

Magnetic pole =/= geographic pole -> geography is a HOAX!

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Date: 8/6/11 02:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ofbg.livejournal.com
No, you fool! It's too many SUVs on the Sun.
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Date: 8/6/11 01:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com
The freakin' surface of the sun *rippled*!

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Date: 8/6/11 05:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com
Consider this, it takes thousands of yerars for a photon to travel from the core to the exterior due to the size, energy, and density of the sun.

That ripple probably had more energy than the Earth could ever produce.

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Date: 8/6/11 07:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
The Sun is alive!!!
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Date: 8/6/11 03:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
That is awesome.

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Date: 8/6/11 06:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paedraggaidin.livejournal.com
I hold with Gregg Easterbrook that GRBs are the muzzle flashes oh unfathomably powerful weapons in a far-off intergalactic war.

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Date: 8/6/11 07:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
If we happen in the way of one we're roasted.

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Date: 9/6/11 04:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
Gamma rays, wouldn't we all just become the Hulk?

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Date: 8/6/11 02:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com
Wait... that's not a magnetar explosion! That's just the animation for Black Hole from Chrono Trigger!

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Date: 8/6/11 01:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com
I want that explosion as an icon-sized .gif.

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Date: 8/6/11 02:09 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com
Seriously, I'd like, buy you a cookie or something. I'm so bad at .gif-creation.
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Date: 8/6/11 07:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
Oooo Brian Greene...
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Date: 8/6/11 02:09 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
I don't trust this scientist. His eyes are slanty and he probably believes in Global Warming. I can't believe Fox would have such a biased, slanted guest on here to deliver misinformation.

I love the...

Date: 8/6/11 16:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
... way Faux News interjected a mortgage rate news flash in the middle of interview.

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Date: 8/6/11 06:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paedraggaidin.livejournal.com
Holy woah. Things like that make me wish I hadn't been born a math dunce and could have been as astronomer.

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Date: 8/6/11 07:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whoasksfinds.livejournal.com
the sun just had its rapture. whose next?

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Date: 8/6/11 07:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
Dr. Kaku raised some brows of fellow scientists when he went on an alarmist spree about solar flares. Now turns out he's been vindicated (I hope he won't be entirely vindicated though).

These things are bound to happen at some point, sooner or later. I don't think if there's anything we could do at this point. We don't have the technology.

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Date: 8/6/11 07:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
SOLAR FART!!
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Date: 8/6/11 17:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
Yeah, like you Amrurkins care about Nobel (except when he blows up stuff).

This reminds me

Date: 8/6/11 16:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foreverbeach.livejournal.com
Alleged global warming is caused by my car, not by the gigantic nuclear fusion reactor 330,000 times the mass of Earth 8 minutes away.

Re: This reminds me

Date: 8/6/11 17:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foreverbeach.livejournal.com
That is your counterargument? The moon has no water. It has no atmosphere. And it gets considerably less direct sunlight than the Earth. But look. I'm sure there's no relationship between the Sun and warmth. That's why when you're in the desert, you don't care about shade.

Re: This reminds me

Date: 8/6/11 18:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spaz-own-joo.livejournal.com
It gets almost exactly as much direct sunlight, relative to its surface area, as does Earth. And it gets far more, relative to its mass, than Earth.

HTH

Re: This reminds me

Date: 8/6/11 19:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spaz-own-joo.livejournal.com
Yes, I'm sure the majority of climate scientists just forgot to consider the Sun.

Re: This reminds me

Date: 9/6/11 03:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chessdev.livejournal.com
(looks up)

OOPS!!! *snaps fingers*

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