[identity profile] zebra24.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
By Art Robinson Congress candidate in Oregon's 4th District.
"On Nov. 4, 2010, as soon as the election results were in and they were sure their candidate had won, faculty administrators at Oregon State University gave new meaning to the term "political payback."

They initiated an attack on my three children – Joshua, Bethany and Matthew – for the purpose of throwing them all out of the OSU graduate school, despite their outstanding academic and research accomplishments. OSU is a liberal socialist Democrat stronghold in Oregon that received a reported $27 million in earmark funding from my opponent, Peter DeFazio, and his Democrat colleagues during the last legislative session...."
Read more: Democrats attack Republican candidate's children

http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/03/07/oregon-state-republican-candidates-children-expelled-as-retribution/

Isn't it nice way to go for leftists?
Yesterday public radio CEO mentioned republicans and Tea Party are racist.
Today professor expels political opponent's kids from the Oregon State University.

That's bad way to go, if liberals want to be fair, why they are doing such things?
Why not just tell exactly what do they want to people:
"Yeah, "Brothers Muslim" aren't terrorist, they just killed opponents with bombs, but not the terrorists.. We need to give them opportunity to lie about themselves and promote themselves using their money as well as Federal funding."

"Yeah, we don't want to teach republican kids, they have to be democrat to be in Oregon State University."

Is it wrong? Then why doing it? Is it right? Then why hiding it?
Is it only about single persons of them? Then why it wasn't subject on CNN, MSNBC, NPR stations yesterday? They cover it, or what?

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Date: 10/3/11 22:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
I think I've figured out the problem here:

Conservatives fixate on person. Liberals fixate on policy.

What do you want us to say? If it is true, it is a bad thing.

But what does that have to do with policy?

What do you want? To say that "liberals are bad people"?

Sure, liberals are bad people. Lots of people are bad people.

But what does that have to do with it?

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Date: 10/3/11 22:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
I mean, what is the end-game here? Some bad liberals picked on some conservative kids so now I'm going to be a conservative? I mean, really, what's the game here?

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erm. is it fri already?

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Excuse me

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Wow!!!!!

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Date: 11/3/11 15:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msmichelle.livejournal.com
The rhetoric up here in Wisconsin shows the liberal side to be entitled like Jesse Jackson and also prone to violent language, hyperbole and death threats.
How does a public institution get away with stripping three promising individuals of their right to education? It's fucking incredible.
I would be remiss not to mention, as per your comment, Liberals also like to muddy the waters and waste time with rhetoric when the facts could not be more clear.

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Date: 10/3/11 22:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com
If true, it is outrageous.

But that is a BIG "if" at the moment. I'll remove my own gall bladder with a rusty grapefruit spoon before I take something sourced to World Net Daily on face value. It is about as bottom of the barrel as you can go for information -- nearly every time they "break" a story that gets any attention, there is an entire BOATLOAD of context and additional information that they left out.

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Date: 10/3/11 22:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
So let me get this straight-some dipshit professors at one University on the West Coast represent all liberals in the United States? I never want to hear you complain about blanket judgments directed at the Tea Party again.

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Date: 10/3/11 22:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com
The story links to World Net Daily.

I'd hold off on ANY assessment of its veracity, frankly.

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Date: 10/3/11 23:32 (UTC)
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World Net Daily.

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Date: 10/3/11 23:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stewstewstewdio.livejournal.com
Today professor expels political opponent's kids from the Oregon State University.

Robinson admitted he didn't have any proof of his allegations. The school has responded. Also, the school isn't even in his congressional district.

http://www.katu.com/news/politics/117702098.html

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What OSU says

Date: 10/3/11 23:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijopo.livejournal.com
"OSU will not comment on other allegations made in the Robinson posts other than to say the claims made therein are baseless and without merit."

http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archives/2011/mar/statement-regarding-recent-internet-postings-art-robinson

Re: What OSU says

Date: 10/3/11 23:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijopo.livejournal.com
Also, "Robinson’s material singles out several individual faculty members for criticism. The university has found no factual basis for the accusations made against those faculty members. "

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Date: 11/3/11 00:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brockulfsen.livejournal.com
Sounds like an academic fraud problem passing off one students work as that of another.

Such scandals are not that common, because they harm the institution's reputation and the value of its degrees.

It sounds like something is going on, but it is more likely entirely about faculty politics not public politics.

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Date: 11/3/11 00:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
KVAL News asked Robinson what proof he has of the university discriminating against his children.

“I don’t have definitive proof," Robinson said. "That is what I believe. Basically, I know what happened. I cannot tell you the motives of the people doing it.”


He cannot tell us the motives, except when he tells us the motives.

I wonder if its considered legal to publish her signature online as they have.

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Date: 11/3/11 00:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaoticgood0405.livejournal.com
A failed Congressional candidate feels his children are being treated unfairly by OSU, so he writes a commentary piece for World Net Daily alleging a political conspiracy to get revenge on him for running, and when questioned, he admits he has no evidence to back up his claims.

I'll wait to make an opinion until there is some investigation done.

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Date: 11/3/11 01:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Yes, this basically sounds like something a conservative happens that he doesn't like, blames it on partisan conspiracy, plays victim. This is new and interesting.

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Date: 11/3/11 01:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/-wanderer-/
It isn't clear what motivation OSU would have to even do this. I mean, the kids of a guy that ran for congress go there and his opponent gave them a bunch of money -- so what? What does either OSU or DeFazio have to gain from any of this?

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Date: 11/3/11 01:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reflaxion.livejournal.com
This link reads like a bad soap opera.

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Date: 11/3/11 01:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com
The ads are a hoot though.
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Date: 11/3/11 01:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kinvore.livejournal.com
Now now, let's avoid the personal attacks please.

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Date: 11/3/11 01:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kinvore.livejournal.com
In other news, Walker's administration compares the protests to the Holocaust:
http://www.wisdems.org/news/press/view/2011-03-a-new-low-scott-walker-administration-compares-capit


Also, there's been a run starting on Walker's bank:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/03/10/954963/-Bank-that-funded-Walker,-now-Closed

Shit's about to get real.

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Date: 11/3/11 01:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farchivist.livejournal.com
Ah, I love legal protests.

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Date: 11/3/11 01:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paedraggaidin.livejournal.com
I'd add to the chorus of "yeah...World Net Daily...'nuff said" but what would be the point? They're a bunch of homophobic birthers who have the journalistic acumen of a right-wing Michael Moore. If there are some reputable sources for this, I'll gladly read them.

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Date: 11/3/11 01:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
For all the people complaining about WND, a simple Google search would help you out.
http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/article_ecf5148c-4ae6-11e0-be07-001cc4c002e0.html
http://www.registerguard.com/web/updates/25976532-41/robinson-osu-students-defazio-university.html.csp

http://news.google.com/news/story?hl=en&rlz=&q=art+robinson+oregon+children&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ncl=dbrAIM3Y3NXslzMFqvOC2XVj30yCM&ei=o355TfH6GIbprAHr8tHCBQ&sa=X&oi=news_result&ct=more-results&resnum=1&ved=0CCIQqgIwAA
http://news.google.com/news/story?hl=en&rlz=&q=art+robinson+oregon+children&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ncl=d5AqvA4TI9g45zM&ei=o355TfH6GIbprAHr8tHCBQ&sa=X&oi=news_result&ct=more-results&resnum=2&ved=0CCkQqgIwAQ

I googled too

Date: 11/3/11 02:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonchylde.livejournal.com
And I found plenty that back up the whole 'he's out on a limb' theory. No evidence from him, they ARE still in school, and the school researched and found no evidence either.

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Date: 11/3/11 04:31 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com
"...why it wasn't subject on CNN, MSNBC, NPR stations yesterday? They cover it, or what?"

...because they also don't cover reported sightings of abominable snowmen, do stories about Bat Boy, or have Glen Beck on their payroll.

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Date: 11/3/11 05:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
Well they do actually. The media spent a lot of time reporting on Obama's birth certificate. What more do these people want? Oh wait, that's right, a strict ideological mouthpiece transmitting nothing other than the party line. Anything less is an insult to them.

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Date: 11/3/11 06:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Yesterday public radio CEO mentioned republicans and Tea Party are racist.
Today professor expels political opponent's kids from the Oregon State University.


I think you're suffering a basic causation-correlation problem. I could pick random stupid things done by conservatives on consecutive days but it's not evidence of anything connecting said stupid people/events.

That's bad way to go, if liberals want to be fair, why they are doing such things?

Because people have varying characteristics besides a liberal-conservative orientation. Also, the first person expressed an opinion, the second chose to act in a discriminatory manner, not the same things.

For the record, some of us liberals are Mean Girls.
Edited Date: 11/3/11 06:52 (UTC)

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Date: 11/3/11 07:10 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] qnetter
Yesterday public radio CEO mentioned republicans and Tea Party are racist.

BZZZZZT! Wrong. Get your facts straight before making a jackass of yourself.

An NPR fundraiser made those statements.

The fact that he has the same last name as NPR's president, to whom he is not related, was mentioned in, oh, every single story that covered it.

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Date: 11/3/11 08:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
There was so much confusion, CSM reported about the female with a female picture and narrated the story as "he" and "him".

lololol I was like, "what the hell is going on with this article?"

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