this is your problem. wisconsin voters are not irrelevant.
I am just arguing that those decisions and priorities are wrong.
and you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but its completely irrelevant to the debate over the allocation of state funds in Wisconsin.
Public sector employees do not get more pay than private sector ones when education level is accounted for
who cares? they are certainly paid a good wage, and have an excellent benefits package. its pretty pathetic when people get upset that they will have to contribute 5% and 12% respectively to their retirement and health care costs.
It isn't fair to change the rules of the game half-way through.
life is a bitch. but what wasn't fair, was making these kinds of promises in the first place. guess what, you're not going to get all your SS benefits either. deal with it.
If you want amazing teachers, offer $100,000 a year to start.
that would be really dumb. why would you offer a six figure salary to some kid right out of college who has never proved themselves in the classroom?
We don't offer that (or anything like it) because we as a society don't value education.
so we have to pay six figure salaries to entry level teachers or we don't value education? again, spare us the drama. the fact of the matter is, if teachers are only motivated by money, they're going to be shitty teachers anyways.
not being able to unionize would not leave public sector employees vulnerable to abuse
as i said, the vulnerability would be exceptionally low. teachers should have the option of having a union. they should not be forced to pay dues.
they can beg the electorate for better treatment
beg? lol, your rhetoric is amusing. if teachers were being "abused" by their politicians, you better believe the voters would hear about it, and they would be pissed. its not like the electorate has a disdain for teachers.
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Date: 20/2/11 16:05 (UTC)this is your problem. wisconsin voters are not irrelevant.
I am just arguing that those decisions and priorities are wrong.
and you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but its completely irrelevant to the debate over the allocation of state funds in Wisconsin.
Public sector employees do not get more pay than private sector ones when education level is accounted for
who cares? they are certainly paid a good wage, and have an excellent benefits package. its pretty pathetic when people get upset that they will have to contribute 5% and 12% respectively to their retirement and health care costs.
It isn't fair to change the rules of the game half-way through.
life is a bitch. but what wasn't fair, was making these kinds of promises in the first place. guess what, you're not going to get all your SS benefits either. deal with it.
If you want amazing teachers, offer $100,000 a year to start.
that would be really dumb. why would you offer a six figure salary to some kid right out of college who has never proved themselves in the classroom?
We don't offer that (or anything like it) because we as a society don't value education.
so we have to pay six figure salaries to entry level teachers or we don't value education? again, spare us the drama. the fact of the matter is, if teachers are only motivated by money, they're going to be shitty teachers anyways.
not being able to unionize would not leave public sector employees vulnerable to abuse
as i said, the vulnerability would be exceptionally low. teachers should have the option of having a union. they should not be forced to pay dues.
they can beg the electorate for better treatment
beg? lol, your rhetoric is amusing. if teachers were being "abused" by their politicians, you better believe the voters would hear about it, and they would be pissed. its not like the electorate has a disdain for teachers.