What question have I failed to answer: that those countries are worse? I've answered those many times, from the very beginning, over and over.
If specific laws apply in the exact same manner in other countries? I've said it's ridiculous to apply that, but I posted a whole list of other countries that have legislated discrimination against women, many non muslim.
What else have I failed to answer you? I seems you are the one desperate to "win" a debate because you fucked up and didn't understand one and fundamental thing in my phrase that bugged you:
Again: Blogger: MUSLIMS are ANIMALS because they rape, that is what ISLAM is.
Me: (with great irony) Christians too! (note what you DIDN'T GET: I DO NOT, DO NOT think Muslims are animals, and hence by the same logic DO NOT think Christians are animals. It was a direct appliance to the blogger's flawed logic, which you, by your own definition do not agree with.
Can it be any clearer than this?
That is faulty logic. Not eating pork is certainly a muslim thing, but when a Christian doesn't eat pork that doesn't make it a Christian thing. (Note that it would also be bad logic to conclude that since I'm saying it's bad logic, I therefore agree with Stussel that rape is part of Islam. It would also be quite faulty to say I was comparing eating pork with rape. I used the example since it was the only thing that came to mind that is innately Muslim and something that some non-muslims do.)
Well hallelujah and thank you, without meaning to, you actually finally GOT my irony. I don't think rape is innate to either Christians or Muslims, as a direct answer to a direct quote by the blogger, that it is (to Muslims). I was using her own flawed logic. Congratulations for "getting it" inadvertently. Or did it escape you that I think the blogger is WRONG in their logic?
I would agree those are all probable causes. In the case of Saudi Arabia and the Taliban I would say an extreme version of Islam is also much to blame. I've theorized in other threads here that if they had (actual) freedom of speech and democracy, a lot of this crap would go away, eventually.
Sure. Thank you, that's what I wanted to hear.
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Re: You've avoided questions over and over.
Date: 17/2/11 22:53 (UTC)If specific laws apply in the exact same manner in other countries? I've said it's ridiculous to apply that, but I posted a whole list of other countries that have legislated discrimination against women, many non muslim.
What else have I failed to answer you? I seems you are the one desperate to "win" a debate because you fucked up and didn't understand one and fundamental thing in my phrase that bugged you:
Again: Blogger: MUSLIMS are ANIMALS because they rape, that is what ISLAM is.
Me: (with great irony) Christians too! (note what you DIDN'T GET: I DO NOT, DO NOT think Muslims are animals, and hence by the same logic DO NOT think Christians are animals. It was a direct appliance to the blogger's flawed logic, which you, by your own definition do not agree with.
Can it be any clearer than this?
That is faulty logic. Not eating pork is certainly a muslim thing, but when a Christian doesn't eat pork that doesn't make it a Christian thing. (Note that it would also be bad logic to conclude that since I'm saying it's bad logic, I therefore agree with Stussel that rape is part of Islam. It would also be quite faulty to say I was comparing eating pork with rape. I used the example since it was the only thing that came to mind that is innately Muslim and something that some non-muslims do.)
Well hallelujah and thank you, without meaning to, you actually finally GOT my irony. I don't think rape is innate to either Christians or Muslims, as a direct answer to a direct quote by the blogger, that it is (to Muslims). I was using her own flawed logic. Congratulations for "getting it" inadvertently. Or did it escape you that I think the blogger is WRONG in their logic?
I would agree those are all probable causes. In the case of Saudi Arabia and the Taliban I would say an extreme version of Islam is also much to blame. I've theorized in other threads here that if they had (actual) freedom of speech and democracy, a lot of this crap would go away, eventually.
Sure. Thank you, that's what I wanted to hear.