No, I am not. Most of my replies have been relatively short. They included:
You imply that there is something in the Muslim society which makes it worse than a Christian society.
No, I imply that Egyptian society (and many other Muslim societies - Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iran, ...) is worse than US society when it comes to treatment of women.
Maybe you agree with Schlussel that certain violent things are innate to Muslims and that they are animals too?
No.
and it sounds like you agree with her
That's because you want it to.
(Hint: that implies that I don't agree with her.)
it would probably mean that you don't think matters are bad because of something specifically innate in Muslims, or otherwise, why being so avoiding in your answers?
I made it clear enough. Again:
You imply that there is something in the Muslim society which makes it worse than a Christian society.
No, I imply that Egyptian society (and many other Muslim societies - Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iran, ...) is worse than US society when it comes to treatment of women.
When I have to copy/paste my reply twice, I can't help thinking the person I'm replying to just isn't listening.
Fact: By the same logic, I added, in my answer to this post, that when rape taken place in Christian countries, by Christians, it should therefore BE Christianity, and thus Christians be animals.
That is faulty logic. Not eating pork is certainly a muslim thing, but when a Christian doesn't eat pork that doesn't make it a Christian thing. (Note that it would also be bad logic to conclude that since I'm saying it's bad logic, I therefore agree with Stussel that rape is part of Islam. It would also be quite faulty to say I was comparing eating pork with rape. I used the example since it was the only thing that came to mind that is innately Muslim and something that some non-muslims do.)
You've avoided answering questions over and over, and you seem to think I must answer this question b/c I'm defending the blog's stance. ZBut I'm not, so I won't. I don't have any definitive theory as to why women are treated significantly worse in a fair number of muslim countries, other than:
Taliban: hardcore batshit control freaks. Saudi religious police: close In general: It's been said many times Mohamed had a nine year old wife. I don't know if that's true but if so that would explain the child marriages. I believe he also had a number of wives, which would explain the polygamy (involving just 1 male of course)
This isn't meant to be any sort of definitive theory, just possible explanations.
I have stated it is because of poverty, ignorance and lack of civil and democratic rights. What do you have to add, or do you agree with me?
I would agree those are all probable causes. In the case of Saudi Arabia and the Taliban I would say an extreme version of Islam is also much to blame. I've theorized in other threads here that if they had (actual) freedom of speech and democracy, a lot of this crap would go away, eventually.
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You've avoided questions over and over.
Date: 17/2/11 22:11 (UTC)No, I am not. Most of my replies have been relatively short. They included:
No, I imply that Egyptian society (and many other Muslim societies - Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iran, ...) is worse than US society when it comes to treatment of women.
No.
That's because you want it to.
(Hint: that implies that I don't agree with her.)
I made it clear enough. Again:
You imply that there is something in the Muslim society which makes it worse than a Christian society.
No, I imply that Egyptian society (and many other Muslim societies - Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iran, ...) is worse than US society when it comes to treatment of women.
When I have to copy/paste my reply twice, I can't help thinking the person I'm replying to just isn't listening.
Fact: By the same logic, I added, in my answer to this post, that when rape taken place in Christian countries, by Christians, it should therefore BE Christianity, and thus Christians be animals.
That is faulty logic. Not eating pork is certainly a muslim thing, but when a Christian doesn't eat pork that doesn't make it a Christian thing. (Note that it would also be bad logic to conclude that since I'm saying it's bad logic, I therefore agree with Stussel that rape is part of Islam. It would also be quite faulty to say I was comparing eating pork with rape. I used the example since it was the only thing that came to mind that is innately Muslim and something that some non-muslims do.)
You've avoided answering questions over and over, and you seem to think I must answer this question b/c I'm defending the blog's stance. ZBut I'm not, so I won't. I don't have any definitive theory as to why women are treated significantly worse in a fair number of muslim countries, other than:
Taliban: hardcore batshit control freaks.
Saudi religious police: close
In general: It's been said many times Mohamed had a nine year old wife. I don't know if that's true but if so that would explain the child marriages.
I believe he also had a number of wives, which would explain the polygamy (involving just 1 male of course)
This isn't meant to be any sort of definitive theory, just possible explanations.
I have stated it is because of poverty, ignorance and lack of civil and democratic rights. What do you have to add, or do you agree with me?
I would agree those are all probable causes. In the case of Saudi Arabia and the Taliban I would say an extreme version of Islam is also much to blame. I've theorized in other threads here that if they had (actual) freedom of speech and democracy, a lot of this crap would go away, eventually.