You're a Mean One, Grinch Alert

[paft.livejournal.com]

Robert Jeffress:

Well, you know every year people bemoan the War on Christmas and I thought, “Let’s do something positive about it,” so we created this website, Grinchalert.com, it allows people to go on our website and, uh, if they’ve encountered a business that shuns Christmas they can talk about it and put that business on the naughty list but if they find a business that celebrates Christmas, they can put that business on the nice list. It’s just a fun way to say to businesses and organizations, “You don’t have to bow to political correctness. It’s okay to say, “Merry Christmas…”

John Roberts: What if businesses who are on the naughty list lose customers?... Would it be a good idea to affect people’s business at this season, which can be make or break for some people, and in this economic climate?

Jeffress: John, let me make it clear, we have never even hinted at a boycott…

"Never even hinted at a boycott?" Really? Here’s what Jeffress said on Fox:

Jeffress: One great example in the Dallas area, there was a bank that took down a Christmas tree because they said it would offend customers. Well, there was another bank that got put on our nice list, the Providence Bank, because they put up a nativity scene. The CEO told me yesterday that there were customers changing from the bank that removed the Christmas tree, and they’re flocking to his bank.

Gretchen Carlson: You are not calling for a boycott of any of these businesses….

Jeffress: Oh, not at all, not in any way! You know, there’s a Mexican restaurant you mentioned that was saying Happy Holidays, but our family still goes there every week…

Watch the latest video at video.foxnews.com

So it’s all about reassuring businesses. Honest! It’s all about making them feel nice and safe. He’s not advocating a boycott.

But he’s delighted to share as an example that little story of a bank losing customers because they took down a Christmas tree.

See, here's what mystifies me about this... Jeffress likes the idea of forcing other people and businesses to utter "Merry Christmas" and post signs saying "Merry Christmas" who are uncomfortable doing it. Do the people at "Grinch Alert" really imagine that businesses and retailers intimidated into towing Grinch Alert's line are acting in the spirit of the season?

And here's one more video, especially for the Reverend Mr. Jeffress:

Thanx to Juliebogen

Crossposted at Thoughtcrimes

Comments

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Yeah, because its at will employment. If they don't like the rules of the job, they can quit.

[mrbogey.livejournal.com]

That's a hard construct for some people to grasp.

[dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com]

They don't. But you asked me how I "rationalize" that I (and most likely other people in this comm) know how what you're going to answer. I responded.

[paft.livejournal.com]

You really are flying off the handle here.

Where have I been inconsistent in this thread?

And no, I would not be cheering on atheists who wanted to boycott businesses for saying "Merry Christmas."

Do you really think just making things up is a valid approach to argument?

[prader.livejournal.com]

ZOMG!

[dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com]

Personally? Not yet. But last week, my mother and I saw someone yell at a Salvation Army bell ringer outside WalMart for saying 'Merry Christmas'.

[paft.livejournal.com]

You do realize, don't you, that it's dishonest and a bit cowardly to just make up answers for someone?

Is actual argument too demanding for you?

[airiefairie.livejournal.com]

Sounds fun. And reminds me of the Discordian "holidays".

[dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com]

Irrelevant strawman is irrelevant.

Maybe to you. Not to me. Thanks!

[ddstory.livejournal.com]

More like a meowcro.

[paft.livejournal.com]

Strawmen are always irrelevant. Not to mention dishonest.

[ddstory.livejournal.com]

And they need a "nice" list and "naughty" list for that?

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Is the assumption that I celebrate Christmas respectful?

Its neither respectful or otherwise. Its just an assumption.

My favorite quip is from Daniel Dennet. He was sick in the hospital and someone told him they would pray for him. He replied, "Gee, will you sacrifice a goat too?". LOL - Must remember that one!

Atheists should have a bit thicker skin. We live on a planet with tons of religiously deluded folks, so either leave the planet or learn to get along with the deluded respectfully.

[dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com]

No, but it clearly seems to be for you.

Where on the website does it specifically say that the group who formed the site is encouraging boycotts of the businesses mentioned? I'd LOVE for you to post that.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Is the assumption mean? I think its just a bit clueless tis all.

[new-wave-witch.livejournal.com]

Maybe this will sound like moving the goalposts, but how could we factor in the random nut to the equation of whether or not there is a significant outcry of people trying to stop other people from personally choosing to say Merry Christmas?

Since this whole thing started, it's been my perspective that there are more people getting pissed about "Happy Holiday" than there are "Merry Christmas." So I'm really skeptical of the contrary.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

[seek error]

huh?

[paft.livejournal.com]

I'm not the one making up answers for other people.

The website doesn't have to say it's encouraging people not to patronize the businesses listed in the "naughty" section. Those who read it will know exactly what to do.

You still haven't said what you think most businesses would conclude about the impact of being listed as "naughty" there. Care to take a shot at it?

[dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com]

No one said you were inconsistent in this thread. You're inconsistent in general. Period.

[qnetter]

I'm simply taking for granted that we celebrate the same things.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

The OP is about denying something is a boycott when it clearly is a boycott.

If you want to discuss how you got scolded for saying Merry Xmas, I suggest making your own post about it rather than attempting to derail the post.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

0.o

Good luck with that one.

A. "Merry Xmas"

B. "Ooooo, buttsex time!!!!"


LOL.

[dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com]

I don't know, how about the fact that people lose their jobs over saying 'Merry Christmas' to someone? In the Philippines right now, the phrase is completely banned. If people didn't get bent out of shape about it, businesses would never have had to change their policies.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

You drinking today?

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

As was mine. :-)