Says you. I say the Founders at this point are beyond liberal or conservative.
Well, says me because the record is as such. I don't see the "progressives" clamoring for smaller, locally-centralized government.
What you feel we oppose is your strict interpretation of what the Founders stood for, and that's just not the same thing no matter how badly you want to believe it.
If "progressives" don't actually oppose that, I'd love to see it.
Conservatives opposed abolishing slavery, opposed women's suffrage, civil rights, ending the Vietnam War, and that's just off the top of my head. You can slow down progress but you can't stop it.
Well, not exactly. And it's hard to call much of how we accomplished those things as "progress," which is part of where you're mistaken.
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Date: 1/12/10 19:35 (UTC)Well, says me because the record is as such. I don't see the "progressives" clamoring for smaller, locally-centralized government.
What you feel we oppose is your strict interpretation of what the Founders stood for, and that's just not the same thing no matter how badly you want to believe it.
If "progressives" don't actually oppose that, I'd love to see it.
Conservatives opposed abolishing slavery, opposed women's suffrage, civil rights, ending the Vietnam War, and that's just off the top of my head. You can slow down progress but you can't stop it.
Well, not exactly. And it's hard to call much of how we accomplished those things as "progress," which is part of where you're mistaken.