You know for someone who is supposedly educated you can be really hard to have a conversation with.
You are sitting here saying Apples are Red and since that isn't red it isn't an apple while completely ignoring the fact that the person you are talking to is saying that A pear has a lot in common with an apple.
No one serious (yes there are always demogogues and idiots who don't know any better) is saying Obama or the modern Progressive movement are NAZI's, they are saying that their policies are closer to Fascism than any other ism that we currently have a term for.
Fascism is not defined as "Pan German Nationalism", that was the way that Fascism manifested in Nazi Germany.
Further the point you consistantly refuse to address is that everyone from Goldberg on down to the posters you are arguing in here are saying that the Fascism of the 1930's is dead, however many of it's central features (No not all, and no Pan German Nationalism is not one of them, that is merely one way it was expressed) have been resurrected in the modern Progressive movement.
That resurrection of course is not a clone but an evolution. Nationalism has been replaced by Globalism, Rigid discipline has been replaced by infantilization and paternalism, and Racial purity has been replaced by political correctness and so on. That said the point stands that many of the policies and platforms would have been equally home in Germany/Italy/Spain of 1935 as the Democan national convention of 2008.
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Re: Some useful bits of this "analysis":
Date: 29/9/10 00:11 (UTC)You are sitting here saying Apples are Red and since that isn't red it isn't an apple while completely ignoring the fact that the person you are talking to is saying that A pear has a lot in common with an apple.
No one serious (yes there are always demogogues and idiots who don't know any better) is saying Obama or the modern Progressive movement are NAZI's, they are saying that their policies are closer to Fascism than any other ism that we currently have a term for.
Fascism is not defined as "Pan German Nationalism", that was the way that Fascism manifested in Nazi Germany.
Further the point you consistantly refuse to address is that everyone from Goldberg on down to the posters you are arguing in here are saying that the Fascism of the 1930's is dead, however many of it's central features (No not all, and no Pan German Nationalism is not one of them, that is merely one way it was expressed) have been resurrected in the modern Progressive movement.
That resurrection of course is not a clone but an evolution. Nationalism has been replaced by Globalism, Rigid discipline has been replaced by infantilization and paternalism, and Racial purity has been replaced by political correctness and so on. That said the point stands that many of the policies and platforms would have been equally home in Germany/Italy/Spain of 1935 as the Democan national convention of 2008.