typical Democan - Republicrat squabbling. Neither side actually listens to the other and turns everything into a referendum on something. For the Democans it is typically race or class, for the Republicrats it is typically the Constitution or taxes.
Here is the thing. When Republicans talk about "stolen elections" they are not in fact talking about legal residents voting. In fact were it not for the race bating by the Democans the Hispanic voters of this country would quickly realize that ideologically they had far more in common with Republicrats than Democans. No, what they are referring to is Democan voter fraud which almost always revolves around dead people and those not actually registered or legally allowed to vote casting ballots anyway (this is not to say Republicrats do not also engage in vote fraud, they just typically chose different avenues) .
No on the root of your accusation. No Palast is an idiot of the first order. First, exactly how can this cause legal residents of any ethnicity to vote? Intimidation? I'm sorry, of you're going to vote you should friggin expect to have your identiy verified and really how stupid would you have to be to show up at a polling location without a Social Security card in your possession? What he really is doing is typical Democan Race Baiting by inflaming a non issue into a big deal just to make the republicrats look bad and keep those minorities locked on the Democan plantation.
No for more lessons in nuance.
See, someone being opposed to ILLEGAL immigration is not the same as someone being against immigration or even the same as someone being prejudiced or bigoted against Hispanics. The main reason why Republicrats oppose ILLEGAL immigration is because it is ILLEGAL, not because it is immigration or Hispanic. In fact the overwhelming majority of Republicrats would be perfectly ok with much easier immigration laws but much stricter punishments for illegals.
What is more it is the Republicrats who actually have reasons for supporting LEGAL immigration as they more often represent the management side of corporations who love to see an influx of low cost labor, on the other hand, just ask the boys over at the Teamsters or AFLCIO (Staunch Democans all) how they feel about filthy mexicans stealing their jobs.
The simple mindedness of the argument that Republicrats = Racists and Democans = Non Racist is exactly that, the argument of someone so simple minded they make George Bush look down right Confuscian. Are there racists in the Republicrat party? Certainly but then there are just as many in the Democan party and neither party has a lock on truth or fairness.
No, if you want to oppose the Arizona law there are plenty of perfectly good reasons to do so (like it goes way too far in instilling a police state) but making up reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with it just makes it look like you really have no ideas of your own and merely want to attack the Republicrats.
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And here I thought liberals were supposed to understamd nuance
Date: 1/5/10 02:06 (UTC)Here is the thing. When Republicans talk about "stolen elections" they are not in fact talking about legal residents voting. In fact were it not for the race bating by the Democans the Hispanic voters of this country would quickly realize that ideologically they had far more in common with Republicrats than Democans. No, what they are referring to is Democan voter fraud which almost always revolves around dead people and those not actually registered or legally allowed to vote casting ballots anyway (this is not to say Republicrats do not also engage in vote fraud, they just typically chose different avenues) .
No on the root of your accusation. No Palast is an idiot of the first order. First, exactly how can this cause legal residents of any ethnicity to vote? Intimidation? I'm sorry, of you're going to vote you should friggin expect to have your identiy verified and really how stupid would you have to be to show up at a polling location without a Social Security card in your possession? What he really is doing is typical Democan Race Baiting by inflaming a non issue into a big deal just to make the republicrats look bad and keep those minorities locked on the Democan plantation.
No for more lessons in nuance.
See, someone being opposed to ILLEGAL immigration is not the same as someone being against immigration or even the same as someone being prejudiced or bigoted against Hispanics. The main reason why Republicrats oppose ILLEGAL immigration is because it is ILLEGAL, not because it is immigration or Hispanic. In fact the overwhelming majority of Republicrats would be perfectly ok with much easier immigration laws but much stricter punishments for illegals.
What is more it is the Republicrats who actually have reasons for supporting LEGAL immigration as they more often represent the management side of corporations who love to see an influx of low cost labor, on the other hand, just ask the boys over at the Teamsters or AFLCIO (Staunch Democans all) how they feel about filthy mexicans stealing their jobs.
The simple mindedness of the argument that Republicrats = Racists and Democans = Non Racist is exactly that, the argument of someone so simple minded they make George Bush look down right Confuscian. Are there racists in the Republicrat party? Certainly but then there are just as many in the Democan party and neither party has a lock on truth or fairness.
No, if you want to oppose the Arizona law there are plenty of perfectly good reasons to do so (like it goes way too far in instilling a police state) but making up reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with it just makes it look like you really have no ideas of your own and merely want to attack the Republicrats.