Businesses are explicitly not allowed to ask for your ID when you use your credit card.
I get asked all the time, if my signature on the back of the card is faded or hard to read, or if I'm paying by check. Or if they need to verify my age for something I'm buying. Laws may vary from state to state on this, but I have been outright refused sale for failing to produce my ID at least twice (and neither times were for age restricted items). Even so, my point remains... there are literally so many situations where we might be asked to produce the proper "papers" already.
Then call the police and ask them to search your house. You don't have anything to hide, right? It's called presumption of innocence and due process, and they are both in the Constitution.
They can't just ask you for no reason. They need reasonable suspicion, which legally means they would need some kind of arguable fact or circumstance to support it, not just a hunch. And if you are a foreigner here legally, you *are* already required to carry your green card with you at all times, so there should be no problem.
Police can demand your drivers license if they stop you while driving. You are not required to carry or show ID in other circumstances. Police are not immigration officers.
The law is not demanding that they hunt for and seek out illegals, like an immigration officer. What this law does is say that if they have reasonable suspicion to suspect someone they encounter is breaking the law by being here illegally, they must ask. But again, this is if, and only if, there is reasonable suspicion to do so in the first place. The law also states that a valid AZ drivers license, and many other common forms of legally issued ID would be sufficient enough proof.
Then why didn't the Republicans, who are complaining so loudly about it now, start doing anything about it ten years ago?
I stated in my earlier comment that the federal government has failed to enforce the laws that already exist, and have failed to secure the borders--both parties have not taken action. Sure, Republicans have paid lip service around election time, because they know that's what their voters want to hear, but it unfortunately amounts to little more than empty rhetoric. The governor of AZ is among the first to actually stand up and do something (instead of just talk), and her approval ratings have jumped as a result. Now governors in other states (such as Texas) are looking at that and thinking gee look at that.....
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Date: 29/4/10 14:04 (UTC)I get asked all the time, if my signature on the back of the card is faded or hard to read, or if I'm paying by check. Or if they need to verify my age for something I'm buying. Laws may vary from state to state on this, but I have been outright refused sale for failing to produce my ID at least twice (and neither times were for age restricted items). Even so, my point remains... there are literally so many situations where we might be asked to produce the proper "papers" already.
Then call the police and ask them to search your house. You don't have anything to hide, right? It's called presumption of innocence and due process, and they are both in the Constitution.
They can't just ask you for no reason. They need reasonable suspicion, which legally means they would need some kind of arguable fact or circumstance to support it, not just a hunch. And if you are a foreigner here legally, you *are* already required to carry your green card with you at all times, so there should be no problem.
Police can demand your drivers license if they stop you while driving. You are not required to carry or show ID in other circumstances. Police are not immigration officers.
The law is not demanding that they hunt for and seek out illegals, like an immigration officer. What this law does is say that if they have reasonable suspicion to suspect someone they encounter is breaking the law by being here illegally, they must ask. But again, this is if, and only if, there is reasonable suspicion to do so in the first place. The law also states that a valid AZ drivers license, and many other common forms of legally issued ID would be sufficient enough proof.
Then why didn't the Republicans, who are complaining so loudly about it now, start doing anything about it ten years ago?
I stated in my earlier comment that the federal government has failed to enforce the laws that already exist, and have failed to secure the borders--both parties have not taken action. Sure, Republicans have paid lip service around election time, because they know that's what their voters want to hear, but it unfortunately amounts to little more than empty rhetoric. The governor of AZ is among the first to actually stand up and do something (instead of just talk), and her approval ratings have jumped as a result. Now governors in other states (such as Texas) are looking at that and thinking gee look at that.....