Well, I expected this to be another right wing hack poll, but

[fridi]

Women’s rights have gone ‘too far’, say majority of Gen Z and millennials, study shows

"Some 52 per cent of Gen Z and 53 per cent of millennials say society has gone so far in promoting women’s rights that it is discriminating against men, a survey by Ipsos UK and the Global Institute for Women’s Leadership at King’s College London found.
In contrast, four in 10 baby boomers (40 per cent) and Gen X (46 per cent) said the same.
More than half of all men (55 per cent) held this opinion, compared to 41 per cent of women."

Of course I agree that there's a war going on against all men as payback for the crimes of some, but wait a second here.

"The survey conducted for International Women’s Day also found that people in Britain are increasingly afraid of promoting women’s rights for fear of reprisals."

That ain't right either. A civilized society can't just blindly inflict reprisals on the promotion of women's rights because of some unhinged feminists whose livers are ruined by an addiction to rageohol. There needs to be more nuance. Reprisals against anti-male discrimination yes, we need that badly. But equality - as in equal treatment for all, not special privileges for women - must march forward. The last thing we need is for this to turn into more recruitment fuel for the Andrew Tomassi Peterson dirtbags of the world. We need Warren Farrell and sensible feminist equivalents to step up and lead these dissenting Millennials and Zoomers down the path of egalitarianism rather than reactionary fear of the term "women's rights" which is where this can lead.

(Cue unhinged 'anti-woke' right wingers complaining about how women were better off as second class citizens and rabid zombie PH feminists ranting and raving about how we need to punish all men to get back at what the bad men have done...)

Comments

[garote]

I suppose the concept of "women's rights" has drifted right out of recognition for me. That's the only way I can personally interpret these poll numbers. I mean, to me it's mainly about equal pay and equal opportunity, driven forward by a push to dismantle the pernicious stereotypes leveled at both women and men alike, and interrogating the way men are disenfranchised and manipulated by patriarchal traditions and politics is a welcome part of that.

What does it mean these days?

Has it succumbed to the idiots who claimed from the outset that it was just another volley in an endless gender war?
Has it been hijacked by the extremists that have always threatened it from within?
The anti-erotica brigade, the so-called pro-family people who feel adrift without strict gender roles, the wackos who claim it's a "godless movement" because it calls out the sexism sewn into their religious traditions?
The self-centered busybodies who think that liberating women means turning them into men, and the bigots on their fringe who think that women becoming men means men are being made obsolete? Many of whom are secretly against the movement just because they personally don't find butch women sexually attractive?
The bigots who think feminism means anger and hate? The ones who think feminism means being a screaming victim, a pincushion, embracing weakness and shame as a weapon to the point of abdicating adult responsibility?

I mean, pick your flavor; these cracked mirrors have been around since the beginning. Since before voting rights; since before the sanitation movement that gave women even half a chance at organizing in the first place. If you don't get to be a feminist, and you don't get to have a movement for women, then what do you get? Tik-Tok dances and hashtags about the joy of consumerism?

[nairiporter]

I don't think anyone's human rights can 'go too far'.

I don't think that's a thing.

Some program or policy might go too far in regards to the subject. But people having rights does not "go too far".

We all have the same rights.