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talkpoliticsThe slowest coup d'état in recent memory continues its grinding path over the US constitution as it slouches towards Bethlehem, bringing bedlam to the American body politic:
www.ft.com/content/6ff4a677-eb2e-438e-ac48-bb5da5a0e588
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/05/trump-protesters-warned-not-to-carry-guns-as-washington-dc-calls-up-national-guard
Wherein we find that '...on Tuesday, Mr Trump falsely suggested that Mr Pence could use the occasion to nullify the result. “The vice-president has the power to reject fraudulently chosen electors...” Mr Trump wrote on Twitter.'
So I have to ask US Republican voters and the undecided folk if they think this is a precedent which they are happy seeing set? Come on guys, you can't put up with allowing this to happen. He has to go to prison now just for what he's done in this past few weeks; that's if you are serious about protecting the Constitution.
If it's all about sticking it to the Libs then please don't clothe yourselves in the Constitution. Accept that you are actually a fascist and you don't care about the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Separation of Power, the makeup of Government etc. You are just about being strong, manly, bullying types who need to beat other folk from time to time to re-enforce your machismo; and who have an unhealthy love of guns; and who aren't too sure about Black folk, because, according to the cartoons on some of your websites, Black folk's skin doesn't make good lampshades.
Have I managed to express my distaste enough, I wonder?
Even so, and to reiterate: Trump needs to go to prison after screwing with the Constitution and the electoral process; no matter what his other sins or crimes may be.
www.ft.com/content/6ff4a677-eb2e-438e-ac48-bb5da5a0e588
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/05/trump-protesters-warned-not-to-carry-guns-as-washington-dc-calls-up-national-guard
Wherein we find that '...on Tuesday, Mr Trump falsely suggested that Mr Pence could use the occasion to nullify the result. “The vice-president has the power to reject fraudulently chosen electors...” Mr Trump wrote on Twitter.'
So I have to ask US Republican voters and the undecided folk if they think this is a precedent which they are happy seeing set? Come on guys, you can't put up with allowing this to happen. He has to go to prison now just for what he's done in this past few weeks; that's if you are serious about protecting the Constitution.
If it's all about sticking it to the Libs then please don't clothe yourselves in the Constitution. Accept that you are actually a fascist and you don't care about the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Separation of Power, the makeup of Government etc. You are just about being strong, manly, bullying types who need to beat other folk from time to time to re-enforce your machismo; and who have an unhealthy love of guns; and who aren't too sure about Black folk, because, according to the cartoons on some of your websites, Black folk's skin doesn't make good lampshades.
Have I managed to express my distaste enough, I wonder?
Even so, and to reiterate: Trump needs to go to prison after screwing with the Constitution and the electoral process; no matter what his other sins or crimes may be.
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Date: 6/1/21 10:55 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 6/1/21 14:21 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 6/1/21 14:38 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 6/1/21 11:03 (UTC)Setting new precedents disrupts established tradition. And you guys in the Anglo-Saxon world seem to be obsessed with tradition. Admit it, tradition and precedence is more important to your societies than the rule of law, or justice and fairness could ever possibly be.
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Date: 6/1/21 11:05 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 6/1/21 14:22 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 6/1/21 14:29 (UTC)However, Trump has broken all norms and traditions, therefore they no longer apply to him. Hence I'm perfectly happy for him to be prosecuted. In fact I would say, as a certain sort of Englishman, he ought to be made example of "pour encourager les autres" if that's the phrase Voltaire used.
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Date: 6/1/21 14:51 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 6/1/21 16:23 (UTC)If not duties to some traditional abstract I suppose all you have left are duties to the person paying your wages.
Oh well.
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Date: 6/1/21 17:47 (UTC)Trump ain't the first president to break norms and traditions.
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Date: 6/1/21 19:02 (UTC)Not sure that is quite what the founders meant when they separated from the tyranny of King George.
Oh America; from Elros to Ar-Pharazon the golden in two hundred and forty years.
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Date: 6/1/21 20:07 (UTC)Your Numenorean reference reminds me that I can't wait for the new Amazon LOTR series.
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Date: 7/1/21 13:15 (UTC)Unless checked it allows the next person to do the same. By definition that is setting a precedent. There is no escaping setting some sort of precedent with the Don. So which precedents do you want to set?
I hope I've defined the problem in a way that makes sense.
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Date: 7/1/21 16:21 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 7/1/21 16:27 (UTC)Are you still a revolutionary?
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Date: 7/1/21 19:55 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 7/1/21 20:36 (UTC)Mandatory Opera and forced discussions on why Derrida should be derided etc... never mind the public servant ranking tables and advancement by examination...
You really don't want that sort of thing happening.
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Date: 6/1/21 20:40 (UTC)They didn't want to unleash the can of worms of regular politicization of the judicial process, which as per the GOP endless trials of Hillary over a non-scandal happened anyway regardless of what was or wasn't.
That excuse got shot between the eyes with the fascist fuckery happening on the Hill now.
Legality is dead.
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Date: 6/1/21 11:07 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 6/1/21 16:34 (UTC)But I think the State prosecutions in NY and now maybe Georgia must have some sort of impact; Biden will have to let them happen before he pardons Trump and then Trump's escutcheon will be well and truly blotted.
It puts Biden in a very strong bargaining position if it pans out like that. He will have all those folk in Congress who supported Trump's election subversion attempt by the short-and-curlies. As will the Democrats. Biden could help the ultras break the Republican Party in half over this.
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Date: 6/1/21 14:12 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 6/1/21 20:39 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 7/1/21 07:46 (UTC)