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Originally posted by [livejournal.com profile] debunkgpolitics at Another Conspiracy Against Pres. Trump
Democrats and the liberal media are not the opponents of Pres. Trump. Some of his most ardent opponents are members of the Established GOP. The latter seek to destroy him by not repealing the ACA, which would make Pres. Trump look like another failed politician who could not keep a promise. Republicans had seven years to develop a better national healthcare plan or at least since January 2017 when their leader was sworn into office. Unfortunately, all they could do was offer a similar version of the ACA. They knew Pres. Trump intended to repeal the ACA but have yet to support him in that respect. Instead, they claim to be helpless despite controlling both chambers of Congress. There are two explanations. One, they do not know how to better replace the ACA, which makes them look hapless and unfit for their offices. Two, they are deliberately trying to sabotage their leader, for he makes them work. The latter conclusion make more sense, because, given their level of intelligence and expertise, they could have had a better plan in less than one year.

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Date: 26/3/17 08:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com
Or three, maybe, just maybe Obamacare is better than anything they've been able to come up with so far.

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Date: 26/3/17 11:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unnamed525.livejournal.com
Obamacare is mostly a shitshow; it is, for the most part, merely a handout to the insurance corporations.

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Date: 26/3/17 14:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com
And it has made millions of people able to afford health care.

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Date: 26/3/17 19:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unnamed525.livejournal.com
Everybody could afford healthcare if we went to a single-payer system.

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Date: 26/3/17 19:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unnamed525.livejournal.com
Obviously, because it means insurance corporations wouldn't exist anymore and we can't have that!

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Date: 27/3/17 03:37 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] garote
Obamacare did/has done a lot more than that.
I agree with you that it would have been 100 times better to include a single payer option and eclipse the insurance companies, but this is certainly a step in that direction.

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Date: 27/3/17 07:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com
I get it, you want it all here and now, don't you. To get "there" in one step.

Who doesn't.

I also understand that the temptation to get sold to simplistic narratives like, "anything in between There and where we are now constitutes selling off to big corporations", is rather big, granted.
Edited Date: 27/3/17 07:22 (UTC)

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Date: 26/3/17 20:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikeyxw.livejournal.com
The real problem is that the US spends way too much on health care, about twice what we probably should spend. For example, the US spent $9,451 per person in 2015 while Canada spent $4,608. Germany, France, and the UK spent $5,267, $4,407, and $4,003, just to round out the big countries in the EU. Switching to a single payer system doesn't do anything to solve the problem of how expensive it is, it just switches from creating an unsustainable burden on households to an unsustainable burden on the federal government. The ACA was largely based on the system in Massachusetts, the state with the highest per capita health care costs.

I won't say Obamacare is better than anything someone could come up with, but I will say that making major changes to a $3.2 trillion system every four or eight years would be insane. The GOP should have stepped up with a well thought out plan to replace the ACA and a plan on how we'd get from where we're at to there. If someone said they came up with TrumpCare in an afternoon, I'd believe them.

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Date: 27/3/17 03:40 (UTC)
garote: (machine)
From: [personal profile] garote
Give them two or three years, and perhaps we'll have something decent. Their own constituents are reading Republican congresscritters the riot act right now, enough that they're slapping back at Trump. (To whom I say: Three cheers for checks and balances, you cheeto-colored crank.)

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