Of multi-kulti, and beauty
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talkpoliticsSome of you may've heard about the row that this year's Miss Helsinki caused in Finland. A Nigerian-born girl, Sephora Ikalaba has won the pageant, and things soon got ugly. The organizers have received a shit-storm of hate mail, and a flood of racist comments has deluged the Finnish blogosphere and of course the likes of Stormfront.
Many are arguing that this choice was yet another example of the meek Europeans feeling "white guilt" and trying to atone for it with a stupid gesture like that. Most commenters have agreed the girl isn't even remotely beautiful. Here she is, by the way:
"She is objectively ugly. I mean seriously, she does not even look pretty amongst her kind." That's just one among many responses in the same vein.
Others have stated that although most Finns are appalled by the decision, mostly for aesthetic reasons, they're also disgusted with the tendency of the Finnish "elites" to follow suit with their Swedish counterparts who've long been setting the tone of multiculturalism in North Europe, at times bringing it to absurd extremes. Like that occasion when a Swedish court released several gang-rape suspects who were also Middle Eastern migrants and had raped a woman in a wheelchair. Quote: "The five men suspected of a gang rape against a wheelchair-bound woman have been released. The prosecutor's decision is based on a legal technicality which basically is about that the wheelchair-bound woman has not shown enough resistance, something that has been difficult, if not impossible, as she has to use a wheelchair."
What say you? Are you more into the "meh, this is just a pageant anyway" sort of argument, or would you rather join the chorus of multi-kulti detractors who recognize here political correctness rearing its ugly mug yet again?
Many are arguing that this choice was yet another example of the meek Europeans feeling "white guilt" and trying to atone for it with a stupid gesture like that. Most commenters have agreed the girl isn't even remotely beautiful. Here she is, by the way:
"She is objectively ugly. I mean seriously, she does not even look pretty amongst her kind." That's just one among many responses in the same vein.
Others have stated that although most Finns are appalled by the decision, mostly for aesthetic reasons, they're also disgusted with the tendency of the Finnish "elites" to follow suit with their Swedish counterparts who've long been setting the tone of multiculturalism in North Europe, at times bringing it to absurd extremes. Like that occasion when a Swedish court released several gang-rape suspects who were also Middle Eastern migrants and had raped a woman in a wheelchair. Quote: "The five men suspected of a gang rape against a wheelchair-bound woman have been released. The prosecutor's decision is based on a legal technicality which basically is about that the wheelchair-bound woman has not shown enough resistance, something that has been difficult, if not impossible, as she has to use a wheelchair."
What say you? Are you more into the "meh, this is just a pageant anyway" sort of argument, or would you rather join the chorus of multi-kulti detractors who recognize here political correctness rearing its ugly mug yet again?
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Date: 10/1/17 20:55 (UTC)I would be concerned if it were an Opel Calibra, though.
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Date: 10/1/17 23:26 (UTC)I'm inclined to not give a whit about beauty pageants, but I don't think it is so hard to understand how ethnic Finns conflate a contest to discover the most beautiful Finnish citizen with the most beautiful Finn, since for the past two hundred years or more there was precious little distinction.
Has a Sami won Miss Suomi? Just curious.
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Date: 10/1/17 23:53 (UTC)[Tips hat.]
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Date: 11/1/17 07:22 (UTC)Don't know, you decide (https://www.google.com/search?q=Sephora+Ikalaba&client=firefox-b-ab&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiNsNqVx7nRAhXI6xQKHRLDChQQ_AUICCgB&biw=1408&bih=670).
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Date: 11/1/17 07:23 (UTC)Outrage over beauty pageants is a common pastime.
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Date: 10/1/17 23:45 (UTC)If the motives behind the pageant judges are the same as the Swedish courts - which is more or less appeasement - the longer it goes on, the worse it will end.
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Date: 11/1/17 09:58 (UTC)I wonder though is that judgement "appeasement" or "white guilt", or something else? Without the specifics of the case and judgement it is difficult to know.
Laws should be enforced without fear or favour. No-one should be privileged such that they are above it.
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Date: 11/1/17 11:42 (UTC)Also I'm expecting a whole slew of such stories to come out now. When the Donald has to talk about false news stories, you can bet there will be deflections en masse.
Mind you, now that we all know, Putin's teeth have rather been pulled.
And now, should Trump be impeached, Putin's victory will be hollow, as Pence will round on Russia. As will the rest of the world.
Thanks to
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Date: 11/1/17 13:36 (UTC)Now, his financial dealings are another matter, they may be boring, but they are more likely to land him in prison.
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Date: 11/1/17 14:05 (UTC)Fun fun fun. And I have some new stuff for my bucket-list. :)
Now as you say his finances are a different matter. But I just can't see Russia coming out of this with the propaganda victory the Kremlin so craved. There will be blowback.
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Date: 11/1/17 00:58 (UTC)http://www.misshelsinki.fi/uutiset/2016/9/8/2017-finalistien-esittelyt
Honestly not the worst looking girl out of all the contestants.
And considering that top 3 image results on google for "miss helsinki" leads to some website affiliated with Stormfront I'll agree with policraticus.
Also note that this is Miss Helsinki, not Miss Finland. So it's just a city-wide contest. Just for comparison, two years ago there was a similar scandal in Moscow just without racial overtones because the Miss Moscow 2014 was chosen this girl
https://themoscowtimes.com/news/miss-moscow-2014-sparks-stream-of-mockery-on-twitter-37088
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Date: 11/1/17 12:43 (UTC)Was it so hard?
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Date: 12/1/17 10:26 (UTC)I still try to oppose it and explain why I oppose it whenever I encounter it, even if it is a casual and unconsidered thing. But I fear I'm fighting a losing battle.