[identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
Some might wonder why Trump has picked Mike "Whoever the fuck this guy is" Pence for VeePee. Especially since him being a Guvnah' means there are limitations to potential election donations to the Trump campaign from now on. Such is the law, after all - and there is some sense to that law, since it's meant to curb possible corruption in election politics. What's more, picking up Pence means you lose the moderate, socially-liberal-leaning vote (you wouldn't want to vote for someone who wants to limit civil rights, after all - including gay rights, if you are part of that segment).

The response to this quandary is, Trump was never counting on the socially liberal-leaning vote anyway. If you're gay or support gay rights for example, you weren't going to vote for him anyway, so he certainly won't bother to try to convince you to send him money or vote for him.

He must have weighed his options, and figured it's potentially far more beneficial to tap into the social conservative fence-sitting segment which was still hesitating whether to support him, and were probably planning to sit it out or at least grudgingly vote/endorse Trump. Now they'll be feeling way better about their vote, and even consider sending him cash. So, if we try to understand the mental process of those folks, they might now think something of the sort of, "Well, he seemed kind of liberal to me, but now I see he's more serious about being a True Conservative". Or something to that effect.

Whether that will work for that segment and for Trump's campaign is another story, and time will tell if that vote would be beneficial for him as opposed to the more moderate vote. Typically a candidate who's more extremist would pick a more moderate running mate to tap into the fence-sitters, granted, but this has been an unusual election in so many ways that I just don't know. On the other hand, he sure doesn't seem to be wasting much time worrying about your donation - he's got money, what he's more concerned about is getting the base more involved and excited about his persona and about the pipe-dream vision of America that he's been painting for them. The Tweet storm he's been carrying out seems to be working - for now.

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Date: 21/7/16 09:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oportet.livejournal.com
Supposedly, Pence brings the Koch brothers with him (I say supposedly, because he picked him about a week ago, and as far as I know they haven't spoken up yet). You're theory is probably more correct - the GOP thinks it needs the evangelicals. I kinda thought Trump would be the first GOP candidate to realize it's actually the other way around, but in the end - he doesn't get it either. So they'll keep kissing the asses of a shrinking segment of voters, voters who would already pick them over the democrats anyway.

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Date: 21/7/16 11:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
He should've picked up someone more experienced in these things - like Sarah Palin.

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Date: 21/7/16 12:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
Trump's problem with the Republican base is that he's not a conservative in any real sense of the word. It's why he was pushed to pick Pence (allegedly against Trump's wishes), and why Pence provides a balance to Trump's ticket in an ideological way as well as providing some executive experience to the ticket.

If Trump wasn't so disqualifying in and of himself, the Pence pick would absolutely make me give him a second look. I wish the ticket were flipped (third election in a row I can say that), but I also live in a state that Clinton will win without a hitch, so none of this matters for me.

Typically a candidate who's more extremist would pick a more moderate running mate to tap into the fence-sitters, granted, but this has been an unusual election in so many ways that I just don't know.

The assumption that Trump is an extremist on the whole is part of the reason why the pick is confusing to you. Trump is basically what you'd expect from an American moderate voter at present - a few basic positions no one talks about with some heresies littered about. We're used to moderate politicians being poll-tested and focus-grouped to death, to the point where there are no surprises, but a "moderate" voter is someone who, for example, might be ambivalent on the ACA, wish the rich paid more in taxes, but also owns 30 guns. Trump is more that guy.

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Date: 21/7/16 17:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
When everyone is an extremist, no one is an extremist.

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Date: 22/7/16 03:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
Do his views actually poll well?

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Date: 22/7/16 11:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
Some do, some don't, same as Clinton.

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