[identity profile] texsky.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics


I'm not too sure what to think on this. What is everyone elses perspectives? Serious problem? Or just a mountain made from a mole-hill by conspiracy theorists?

I joined this community because as stated "A place to discuss politics without egomeniac mods"  I hope to find this to be true.

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Date: 17/9/09 18:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Most countries have some sort of compulsory military service. I think Americans should have mandatory customer service - out of high school everyone has to work for three years serving the public.

It would provide motivation for getting an education and might, though probably not, teach some manners or perspective in dealing with the rest of society.

Teaching manners?

Date: 17/9/09 23:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
I certainly hope it would not teach the same kind of bad habits that the military teaches. Rather than being a source of unification, military regimentation tends to enhance and enforce differences. It's one of the vectors for teaching racism.

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Date: 18/9/09 09:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robert-johnson.livejournal.com
Except for that whole being the final catalyst for the successful civil right movement and everything...

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Date: 18/9/09 14:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] debergerac.livejournal.com
military regimentation tends to enhance and enforce differences.

it does?

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Date: 17/9/09 18:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thies.livejournal.com
had the choice between civil and military service, went with the latter. don't care either way how this plays out in the US. see no current plans being put forward for anything like it.

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Date: 17/9/09 18:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redheadrat.livejournal.com
idea is good, but the problem is in mandatory implementation that is going to be devised by politicians

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Date: 17/9/09 18:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] policraticus.livejournal.com
This is perpetual hobby horse of a lot of "we mean it for your own good," politicians. It never goes anywhere, it never will. The logistics are prohibitive. Plus there is no market for it. Plus, we fought a bloody four year war and reduced a third of our nation to ashes to eliminate slavery. I see no groudswell of support for its return.

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Date: 17/9/09 20:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com
Most people don't see this as slavery. 'Course, the only people who matter are on the Supreme Court...

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Date: 17/9/09 20:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] policraticus.livejournal.com
It is forced labor that is not paid for. Whatever you like to call it, it is slavery.

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Date: 18/9/09 00:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
The War of Northern Aggression was about states' rights, not slavery!

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Date: 17/9/09 18:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Let's have a gender-neutral conscription. Let's see women get a chance to be blown up in horrible ways as much as men do. They can shoot a rifle as well as men can, so by all means, let's bring back the draft and bring it back for the womenfolk, too.
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Date: 17/9/09 18:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijopo.livejournal.com
"A place to discuss politics without egomeniac mods"

I'd suggest you check with hunterkirk about that.
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Date: 17/9/09 20:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com
Why? He's not banned as far as i can see. Whether he wants to return, is another issue.
Also, i think this was chewed over and over again many times. But if you'd like to add something new, please do.
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Date: 18/9/09 00:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
When did he ever discuss anything with anyone?

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Date: 17/9/09 18:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kinvore.livejournal.com
I joined this community because as stated "A place to discuss politics without egomeniac mods" I hope to find this to be true.

I should ban you just for questioning our absolute powah.

I keed, I keed.

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Date: 17/9/09 20:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com
A bit off topic here, but just so you know. (I didnt wanna open a whole separate thread so i thought the place is appropriate here). FYI, hunterkirk has been unblocked from returning here, if i could call it so. He'll be duly informed about that too. The first step on the wrong side of civil conduct would mean he'll be gone forever.

Thats my tribute to the Principle of the Second Chance.

Feel free to call me a milksop.

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Date: 17/9/09 18:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reality-hammer.livejournal.com
I'm sure they would love to have compulsory "volunteer" service but public opinion and the Constitution are against them.

Current military technology makes mass numbers of soldiers unnecessary (short of a land war in Asia) so they can't even attempt to piggyback this on military registration/conscription.

I think peering at why they'd like like to control your life for a couple of year as you enter (legal) adulthood tells you all you need to know about this plan.

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Date: 17/9/09 19:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] existentme.livejournal.com
This is the second mention of "years" in the comments - where Rhambo says in the film, "3 months."

(Don't get me wrong, however, not three years, not three months, not three days - make PLANS for yourself, pal, not for me or my kids, mkthanks.)

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Date: 17/9/09 20:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com
God, yes. First a boot camp in Socialist doctrine and terrorist warfare, followed by a pledge to support the "Messiah" as ultimate leader of the country, then training in abortion techniques. It's inevitable.

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Date: 17/9/09 20:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com
Dont worry about teh modz. They're all kept under control ;)

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Date: 17/9/09 22:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
I joined this community because as stated "A place to discuss politics without egomeniac mods" I hope to find this to be true.

Uh-oh, he's gonna be a troublemaker, ban him. ;)

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Date: 18/9/09 00:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] debergerac.livejournal.com
he's always welcome over at politics forum. nobody ever accused doc neuro of being an egomaniac...

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