s: Color me surprised, but otherwise happy to hear it.
You keep making pronouncements about women's issues that reveal just how ignorant you are about them.
paft: What? Is this some oblique complaint about men being prosecuted for date rape?
s: Yes. Advocates of the "rape culture" hypothesis have made great strides eroding due process protections for men.
"Rape culture" isn't a "hypothesis." It's reality, and it's one many women after a certain age are painfully conscious of.
s: What I am implying is that female defendants should be subject to the same standards (or lack there of) as their male counter-parts.
So the victim should be put on trial as well?
Look, I'm no fan of any effort to throw out due process. I was speaking up about it during the '90s during the child molestation scare, and I hold no brief for how the prosecutors handled the Duke Lacrosse case. But the fact remains, I've known quite a few women who were raped. One was a college friend who drank too much, passed out, and awoke realizing that someone had raped her while she was unconscious. Another was drugged at a friends house and raped . One was grabbed just a few feet from her front door and raped in her yard...
Rape as a crime is pretty prevalent, as is the tendency to put the onus on the victim rather than the rapist. (My friend who was raped at the party was afraid to tell report it. If her father had found out what happened, he would have beaten her.)
s: ...and if that means fewer working hours, they should accept the hit to their income that entails. Equal pay for equal work is the goal is it not?
Well, first of all, that "hit in income" is part of what makes poverty so prevalent among single mothers. It's not just a matter of mom not being able to shop at Whole Foods. It's a matter of working mothers being sometimes unable to afford to put food on the table.
As for equal pay for equal work, I've not heard any feminists advocating that the working hours accomodations they request only apply to single mothers. Single fathers would benefit also.
s: and no I have not changed my mind about Scandinavians. Why? Are they not running a surplus anymore?
And yet, they have a strong social safety net, incredibly generous parental leave policies, much longer vacations, and a shorter work week than Americans.
How do you account for this?
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Date: 21/4/14 17:13 (UTC)You keep making pronouncements about women's issues that reveal just how ignorant you are about them.
paft: What? Is this some oblique complaint about men being prosecuted for date rape?
s: Yes. Advocates of the "rape culture" hypothesis have made great strides eroding due process protections for men.
"Rape culture" isn't a "hypothesis." It's reality, and it's one many women after a certain age are painfully conscious of.
s: What I am implying is that female defendants should be subject to the same standards (or lack there of) as their male counter-parts.
So the victim should be put on trial as well?
Look, I'm no fan of any effort to throw out due process. I was speaking up about it during the '90s during the child molestation scare, and I hold no brief for how the prosecutors handled the Duke Lacrosse case. But the fact remains, I've known quite a few women who were raped. One was a college friend who drank too much, passed out, and awoke realizing that someone had raped her while she was unconscious. Another was drugged at a friends house and raped . One was grabbed just a few feet from her front door and raped in her yard...
Rape as a crime is pretty prevalent, as is the tendency to put the onus on the victim rather than the rapist. (My friend who was raped at the party was afraid to tell report it. If her father had found out what happened, he would have beaten her.)
s: ...and if that means fewer working hours, they should accept the hit to their income that entails. Equal pay for equal work is the goal is it not?
Well, first of all, that "hit in income" is part of what makes poverty so prevalent among single mothers. It's not just a matter of mom not being able to shop at Whole Foods. It's a matter of working mothers being sometimes unable to afford to put food on the table.
As for equal pay for equal work, I've not heard any feminists advocating that the working hours accomodations they request only apply to single mothers. Single fathers would benefit also.
s: and no I have not changed my mind about Scandinavians. Why? Are they not running a surplus anymore?
And yet, they have a strong social safety net, incredibly generous parental leave policies, much longer vacations, and a shorter work week than Americans.
How do you account for this?