Monthly topic

[abomvubuso.livejournal.com]

Hey everybody! As per our local tradition, it's time to see what the new monthly topic is. The one you guys chose last time was...

Political Correctness and Hypocrisy



Now, now. This is gonna be kinda tricky, eh?

So here are some details that may or may not provide a few guidelines on the subject.

- The evolution of political correctness.
- Linguistic relativity and linguistic determinism.
- Linguistic prescriptivism: aims, origins and problems.
- Freedom of expression and the thought police.
- Your rights end where my feelings begin.
- Politeness brought to extremes: how does it shape the discourse?
- Controversial cartoons: hate crime or smart art?
- PC language: the evolution of convenient substitute words.
- The race card, gender card, religion card, and various other "cards".
- Non-sexist, gender-neutral and genderless language.
- Disability etiquette and people-first language.
- Self-described politically incorrect mavericks aiming for controversy.
- Right-wing political correctness.
- Identity politics.
- Politization of science.
- Satirical use of political correctness.
- The Christmas controversy, and the War on Christmas.
- Political hypocrisy, the mask of power: do as I say, not as I do.
- Hypocrisy and integrity: Machiavelli, Rousseau, and the ethics of politics.
- Hypocrisy and politics; politeness manners and morals.
- Political falsehoods, hyperbole, and talking points distorting the public discourse.
- Most flagrant examples of hypocrisy in politics.
- The diplomatic face of Realpolitik.
- Most hypocrite politicians.
- Double standards in international politics.
- Quotes about hypocrisy.

And here's the poll for April:

[Poll #1958856]

(Feel free to suggest more topics).

Comments

[htpcl.livejournal.com]

We've been receiving some very intriguing lessons from around the world right now, haven't we.

[paft.livejournal.com]

A now meaningless term that, as it's most frequently used, is loosely translated as short for "I can't defend the racist/sexist/social Darwinist/callous/unbelievably stupid thing I just said/wrote/posted, so I'm going to denounce any objections to it as 'political correctness.'"

[abomvubuso.livejournal.com]

That may warrant a post in its own worth, don't you think?

[enigmacat.livejournal.com]

Yup.

It may be that there's another use of the term that has to do with obfuscating the truth to avoid making people uncomfortable at the expense of actually addressing the issue, but I tend to see fewer people complaining about PC in that context.

[anfalicious.livejournal.com]

Yep, that's the only context I've heard it used in since the 90s.

Although we have an interesting cultural trait here (humourous self deprecation combined with giving everyone nicknames) that it's not always so clear cut here.

[paft.livejournal.com]

B: However on the flip side, I have seen and heard it used to describe the actual silencing via authority (not debating with, not refutation of, but actual forceful shutdown of) unpopular viewpoints, based purely on their being out of sync with the de facto consensus.

Examples?

[paft.livejournal.com]

As I quoted to you, examples of it being "used to describe the actual silencing via authority (not debating with, not refutation of, but actual forceful shutdown of) unpopular viewpoints, based purely on their being out of sync with the de facto consensus."

[enigmacat.livejournal.com]

However, I used to find this quite amusing. Politically Correct Three Little Pigs (http://www.spunk.org/texts/humour/sp001556.html).

Once there were 3 little pigs who lived together in mutual respect and in harmony with their environment. Using materials that were indigenous to the area they each built a beautiful house. One pig built a house of straw, one a house of sticks, and one a house of dung, clay and creeper vines shaped into bricks and baked in a small kiln. When they were finished, the pigs were satisfied with their work and settled back to live in peace and self-determination.

But their idyll was soon shattered. One day, along came a big, bad wolf with expansionist ideas. He saw the pigs and grew very hungry in both a physical and ideological sense.....

From Politically Correct Bedtime Stories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politically_Correct_Bedtime_Stories)

[404.livejournal.com]

The picture is too white. It'll trigger SJWs and their fears of the hegemony of whiteness.

[anfalicious.livejournal.com]

I was talking with my housemate last night; he got in trouble for talking about Jared Leto maybe winning an Oscar for Dallas Buyers Club. Apparently, some SJW was most upset at the idea that a cis-gendered, white man is playing a transgendered white man. He was really upset as he considers himself to be considerate and caring and all of those things and couldn't understand what was wrong with his thoughts; he thinks that it was a great acting performance. I told him to not worry about what some middle class white girl thinks because her opinion is about as valid as his; less actually given that she shares nothing in common with the character other than race (whereas he has been both poor and male as well).

Bonus points, she thought the correct option was to have a woman play a man playing a woman, because it makes sense that women would understand what a transgendered man goes through better than a straight man somehow.

[htpcl.livejournal.com]

Your icon reminds me of (http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=148902)...

[404.livejournal.com]

It's a cute puppy. There is always the opposite to my icon....

[anfalicious.livejournal.com]

Dogewin, or is it Godewin?

[htpcl.livejournal.com]

What can I say. You do love your canine dictators.

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[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

I would be interested in seeing a post about political correctness in the restriction of posting to TP.

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[abomvubuso.livejournal.com]

The whole issue had already been extensively discussed (http://talk-politics.livejournal.com/1751306.html), so we're not going to run in circles again.
You even made a promise (http://talk-politics.livejournal.com/1751306.html?thread=139682314#t139682314), which you didn't keep. Not only that, but you then doubled down instead of realising your mistake. Unless demonstrated otherwise in subsequent comment sections, we're going to assume that you're incapable of keeping it.

Finally, be informed that this is going to be the final word on the issue in any other place but the designated thread (http://talk-politics.livejournal.com/1301765.html). Unless you insist that your restriction of posting be extended to a restriction on commenting as well.