Consider the difference between referring to someone as a "Jew boy" and referring to someone as a "Jewish boy."
You wanna know the difference? A few thousand years of extreme persecution. This isn't offensive because it's incorrect grammar. Take for instance "A Jew lawyer." Pretty similar to "Democrat Senator," grammatically at least. Now, lets change it to proper grammar, "that lawyer is a Jew" compared to "that Senator is a Democrat." For many people, the former statement is still not nice to say. The latter I would assume wouldn't be offensive to anyone. Sandwichwarrior mentioned a major persecution complex. If Democrats want to start comparing the level of persecution they receive to that suffered by Jews throughout history, well "major" is an understatement by far.
YOU:Oh, you've been pretty consistent in pretending that the issue is simply the word "Democrat" rather than the denigrating term "Democrat Party." ME: This is of course, is a bit exaggerated. In the case of Democrat Party and Democratic Party, a Republican might not like labeling the their opposition party as the democratic one.
If I was a Democrat, I wouldn't be offended at Democrat Party.
... many Republican's don't like saying that it's Democratic bill, or idea, or party. Just because it came from the Democratic party, doesn't mean it's democratic
Right Paft. I've obviously been trying to make it out to be about the word Democrat, instead of Democrat Party. I'm absolutely amazed at how try to argue I'm arguing something I'm not. I'm clearly talking about "Democrat Party," and if you don't want to address my points, why bother responding at all?
Like your claim that critics tended to refer to the Moral Majority as the "immoral minority" in a manner comparable to 21st century conservatives calling the Democratic Party "The Democrat Party.")
*rolls eyes*. You got all that from, "plenty of people did call them that." Not that it matter much anyways. You are the one who brought up the Moral Majority. I'm having trouble seeing how it has any bearing on the current discussion at all, as "Immoral Minority" is not the same as "Democrat Party." It would be more similar to "Undemocratic Party," which I think we would both be in agreement that it is a slur, and no, I don't see any groups calling the Democratic Party the Undemocratic Party.
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Date: 18/10/13 14:52 (UTC)You wanna know the difference? A few thousand years of extreme persecution. This isn't offensive because it's incorrect grammar. Take for instance "A Jew lawyer." Pretty similar to "Democrat Senator," grammatically at least. Now, lets change it to proper grammar, "that lawyer is a Jew" compared to "that Senator is a Democrat." For many people, the former statement is still not nice to say. The latter I would assume wouldn't be offensive to anyone. Sandwichwarrior mentioned a major persecution complex. If Democrats want to start comparing the level of persecution they receive to that suffered by Jews throughout history, well "major" is an understatement by far.
YOU:Oh, you've been pretty consistent in pretending that the issue is simply the word "Democrat" rather than the denigrating term "Democrat Party."
ME:
This is of course, is a bit exaggerated. In the case of Democrat Party and Democratic Party, a Republican might not like labeling the their opposition party as the democratic one.
If I was a Democrat, I wouldn't be offended at Democrat Party.
... many Republican's don't like saying that it's Democratic bill, or idea, or party. Just because it came from the Democratic party, doesn't mean it's democratic
Right Paft. I've obviously been trying to make it out to be about the word Democrat, instead of Democrat Party. I'm absolutely amazed at how try to argue I'm arguing something I'm not. I'm clearly talking about "Democrat Party," and if you don't want to address my points, why bother responding at all?
Like your claim that critics tended to refer to the Moral Majority as the "immoral minority" in a manner comparable to 21st century conservatives calling the Democratic Party "The Democrat Party.")
*rolls eyes*. You got all that from, "plenty of people did call them that." Not that it matter much anyways. You are the one who brought up the Moral Majority. I'm having trouble seeing how it has any bearing on the current discussion at all, as "Immoral Minority" is not the same as "Democrat Party." It would be more similar to "Undemocratic Party," which I think we would both be in agreement that it is a slur, and no, I don't see any groups calling the Democratic Party the Undemocratic Party.