ch: That's good, but plenty of people called the Moral Majority "neither moral nor a majority." paft: As a name? Not in the media. ch: Sure they did. You just didn't care enough to notice.
So now you're just making stuff up. I guess you figured that since the Moral Majority was a force in the '70s or '80s, theres nothing I can cite to show that you're wrong.
But you see, I did care, very much, and I noticed. I noticed to the point of doing a paper on them in college. Had kind of a ringside seat to the rise of the Moral Majority from the University of North Carolina. Bought a good many books on the subject, some of them by people who liked the Moral Majority, some by people who hated the Moral Majority. I still have them.
And those critics referred to the Moral Majority as -- The Moral Majority.
From Perry Deane Young's book, God's Bullies: "The idea for Moral Majority, Inc. itself came from two political operatives in Washington...What the rightists fear is freedom itself. This is suggested in an anthem of a percursor of Moral Majority...a national officer of Moral Majority named Charles Stanley says..."
From A. Bartlett Giamatti's speech at Yale: "A self-proclaimed Moral Majority and its satellite or client groups...The Moral Majority is a cry of exhaustion...
From the President of Georgetown University, Timothy S. Healy: now we have the new righteousness and its prophet 'The Moral Majority.'"
From Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy: "...the Catholic Church in the United States and extremely conservative Christian evangelical groups like The Moral Majority..."
From a book critical about the then-new religious right, Holy Terror by Flo Conway and Jim Siegelman: "Moral Majority's reverend Jerry Falwell with his "Old Time Gospel Hour" was not the only stop on the dial..."
From Redemptorama by Carol Flake: "Contemporary groups like Moral Majority, however, who acted as a kind of Chrsitian counterculture..."
From Jerry Falwell: An Unauthorized Profile by Dr. William R. Goodman Jr., and Dr. James J.H. Price: "According to Jerry Falwell, the Moral Majority was born June 6, 1979..."
ch: But hey, using a noun instead of adjective. How rude is that?
It can be pretty rude. Consider the difference between referring to someone as a "Jew boy" and referring to someone as a "Jewish boy."
ch: There is nothing insulting about saying Democrat and I have been consistent since my first comment on it.
Oh, you've been pretty consistent in pretending that the issue is simply the word "Democrat" rather than the denigrating term "Democrat Party."
Seriously, the level of dishonesty in your posts here is pretty staggering. How do you justify it to yourself? Is it along the lines of the "holy lie?" Do you imagine that telling what you fondly imagine to be a "little" fib (Like your claim that critics tended to refer to the Moral Majority as the "immoral minority" in a manner comparable to 21st century conservatives calling the Democratic Party "The Democrat Party.") is in the service of some greater truth?
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Date: 18/10/13 08:44 (UTC)paft: As a name? Not in the media.
ch: Sure they did. You just didn't care enough to notice.
So now you're just making stuff up. I guess you figured that since the Moral Majority was a force in the '70s or '80s, theres nothing I can cite to show that you're wrong.
But you see, I did care, very much, and I noticed. I noticed to the point of doing a paper on them in college. Had kind of a ringside seat to the rise of the Moral Majority from the University of North Carolina. Bought a good many books on the subject, some of them by people who liked the Moral Majority, some by people who hated the Moral Majority. I still have them.
And those critics referred to the Moral Majority as -- The Moral Majority.
From Perry Deane Young's book, God's Bullies: "The idea for Moral Majority, Inc. itself came from two political operatives in Washington...What the rightists fear is freedom itself. This is suggested in an anthem of a percursor of Moral Majority...a national officer of Moral Majority named Charles Stanley says..."
From A. Bartlett Giamatti's speech at Yale: "A self-proclaimed Moral Majority and its satellite or client groups...The Moral Majority is a cry of exhaustion...
From the President of Georgetown University, Timothy S. Healy: now we have the new righteousness and its prophet 'The Moral Majority.'"
From Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy: "...the Catholic Church in the United States and extremely conservative Christian evangelical groups like The Moral Majority..."
From a book critical about the then-new religious right, Holy Terror by Flo Conway and Jim Siegelman: "Moral Majority's reverend Jerry Falwell with his "Old Time Gospel Hour" was not the only stop on the dial..."
From Redemptorama by Carol Flake: "Contemporary groups like Moral Majority, however, who acted as a kind of Chrsitian counterculture..."
From Jerry Falwell: An Unauthorized Profile by Dr. William R. Goodman Jr., and Dr. James J.H. Price: "According to Jerry Falwell, the Moral Majority was born June 6, 1979..."
ch: But hey, using a noun instead of adjective. How rude is that?
It can be pretty rude. Consider the difference between referring to someone as a "Jew boy" and referring to someone as a "Jewish boy."
ch: There is nothing insulting about saying Democrat and I have been consistent since my first comment on it.
Oh, you've been pretty consistent in pretending that the issue is simply the word "Democrat" rather than the denigrating term "Democrat Party."
Seriously, the level of dishonesty in your posts here is pretty staggering. How do you justify it to yourself? Is it along the lines of the "holy lie?" Do you imagine that telling what you fondly imagine to be a "little" fib (Like your claim that critics tended to refer to the Moral Majority as the "immoral minority" in a manner comparable to 21st century conservatives calling the Democratic Party "The Democrat Party.") is in the service of some greater truth?