bdj: And this is where your biases are clouding your understanding. Even in strong districts, if you know a voter is probably going to vote your opponent, you're skipping that House.
Which, again, is miles away from taking steps to hobble the ability of the voters in that house to actually cast a ballot.
paft: Do you understand the difference between saying "I don't want you to vote for my opponent" and saying "I don't want to you vote if you're going to vote for my opponent?" Yes or no? bdj: Yes, with a caveat. If I have the opportunity to get 100 people out to vote, and 10 of them are black, and 9 of them will vote for my opponent, statistically speaking, and the question is posed about getting the black vote out, the correct answer is that I don't want them to vote at all.
And to prevent them from voting you would...?
See, I think what's happening is not that you don't understand reality. You do. You just don't want to come out and directly say what it is you and the right wing advocate.
I see this all the time from posters who will furiously deny that a given policy or statement is "racist", all the while using a definition of "racism" that they know is not in accordance with common usage. In short, they debate in bad faith.
That's what I suspect is happening, and why some people have begun suspecting your motives in posting here.
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Date: 12/10/13 16:35 (UTC)Which, again, is miles away from taking steps to hobble the ability of the voters in that house to actually cast a ballot.
paft: Do you understand the difference between saying "I don't want you to vote for my opponent" and saying "I don't want to you vote if you're going to vote for my opponent?" Yes or no?
bdj: Yes, with a caveat. If I have the opportunity to get 100 people out to vote, and 10 of them are black, and 9 of them will vote for my opponent, statistically speaking, and the question is posed about getting the black vote out, the correct answer is that I don't want them to vote at all.
And to prevent them from voting you would...?
See, I think what's happening is not that you don't understand reality. You do. You just don't want to come out and directly say what it is you and the right wing advocate.
I see this all the time from posters who will furiously deny that a given policy or statement is "racist", all the while using a definition of "racism" that they know is not in accordance with common usage. In short, they debate in bad faith.
That's what I suspect is happening, and why some people have begun suspecting your motives in posting here.