Oh my GOD. It's like die hard, its like beating your wife, it's like blah blah. I don't give a shit (I do however care about children with cancer, unlike Reid). It is what it is.
Republicans: 'shutdown the government.'
Democrats: 'look, you can't get into national parks, kids are dying of cancer, the VA will fall apart, and it's all the Republicans fault!,'
Republicans: 'lets fund those separately to help limit the pain of the shutdown!'
Democrats: "We need to veto the shit outta that, because we wanna be able to blame them for it so we can pressure them to get a full CR through and discourage future attempts like this"
That is exactly what it is. You can describe some stupid analogy for diehard, but it doesn't explain it any better than those three short statements. You can argue that Democrats are right in doing so, you can argue that Republicans shouldn't have shutdown the government in the first place, which is what everyone is trying to argue but then pretend like Democrats aren't using those things for political gain. Hell, I'm not even arguing that Republican's were right to shutdown the government, nor have I presented an argument that the Democrats are wrong to not allow smaller spending bills, although I think its a bit silly to say you are concerned about these things and then in the same breath say that Democrats shouldn't fund them during the shutdown without a full CR. I'm just presenting facts, and I'm bombarded with this stupid analogy bullshit. You should feel embarrassed.
THE BOTTOM LINE:
If you feel like its acceptable to not allow small spending bills to fund the NPS, the NIH, and the VA during the shutdown so the Republicans feel political pressure to end the shutdown, then fine. But stop pussyfooting around it and pretend that you are concerned with those things, because you aren't. You are more concerned with making sure the ACA is untouched by the CR and you are delighted at being able to blame Republicans for any and all pain caused by the shutdown.
And BTW, your analogy is fully fucking stupid and doesn't make any bit of sense, nor could it possibly have any relation to the shutdown. Don't get those kids their cancer treatments like the Republicans demand... because you know, the Republicans are going to kill all of them anyways! NO NEGOTIATION WITH TERRORIST FUCK YA.
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Date: 3/10/13 17:29 (UTC)It's like...
Oh my GOD. It's like die hard, its like beating your wife, it's like blah blah. I don't give a shit (I do however care about children with cancer, unlike Reid). It is what it is.
Republicans: 'shutdown the government.'
Democrats: 'look, you can't get into national parks, kids are dying of cancer, the VA will fall apart, and it's all the Republicans fault!,'
Republicans: 'lets fund those separately to help limit the pain of the shutdown!'
Democrats: "We need to veto the shit outta that, because we wanna be able to blame them for it so we can pressure them to get a full CR through and discourage future attempts like this"
That is exactly what it is. You can describe some stupid analogy for diehard, but it doesn't explain it any better than those three short statements. You can argue that Democrats are right in doing so, you can argue that Republicans shouldn't have shutdown the government in the first place, which is what everyone is trying to argue but then pretend like Democrats aren't using those things for political gain. Hell, I'm not even arguing that Republican's were right to shutdown the government, nor have I presented an argument that the Democrats are wrong to not allow smaller spending bills, although I think its a bit silly to say you are concerned about these things and then in the same breath say that Democrats shouldn't fund them during the shutdown without a full CR. I'm just presenting facts, and I'm bombarded with this stupid analogy bullshit. You should feel embarrassed.
THE BOTTOM LINE:
If you feel like its acceptable to not allow small spending bills to fund the NPS, the NIH, and the VA during the shutdown so the Republicans feel political pressure to end the shutdown, then fine. But stop pussyfooting around it and pretend that you are concerned with those things, because you aren't. You are more concerned with making sure the ACA is untouched by the CR and you are delighted at being able to blame Republicans for any and all pain caused by the shutdown.
And BTW, your analogy is fully fucking stupid and doesn't make any bit of sense, nor could it possibly have any relation to the shutdown. Don't get those kids their cancer treatments like the Republicans demand... because you know, the Republicans are going to kill all of them anyways! NO NEGOTIATION WITH TERRORIST FUCK YA.