[identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
There are two distinct schools of thought on health care reform. One of them advocates genuine changes is the way that health care is delivered and the other does not. The second school is not dissatisfied with the quality of health care. It considers health care to be as good as it is going to get. The second school only concerns itself with how health care is distributed. It is divided into camps which disagree over public vs. private distribution of services. Those who advocate genuine reform in the quality of health care have to contend not only with the poor quality of health care but with the fact that people fight over who is supposed to pay for the delivery of such poor services. This fight over distribution of shoddy services distracts people from the more fundamental issue at hand.

The issue of shoddy services is not limited by ability to pay. People of all walks of life are victims of shoddy health care practices. Many of them have no clue that the quality of care that they receive could be far better than it is. People with more money are actually more likely to be taken in by charlatan medical practice. They are more willing to pay out of pocket for questionable treatments and for treatments that actually degrade the quality of their lives. Poor people will not subject themselves willingly to such treatments. The poor live life closer to the bone. They are not buffered from reality by the comforts of luxury. Only the advocates of shoddy health care for all will do anything to bring poor quality services to those who are not willing or able to pay.

How can we address this problem? One of the first steps we can take is to recognize that health care is a service industry. Health care practitioners are service providers. Thinking of them as scientists does them no favors. Science is involved in one degree or another for all services, but the services themselves are not strictly scientific. The highest quality deliverers of health services are people with more of a human touch than a scientific one. Practitioners who regard themselves as scientists tend to see their patients as experimental objects, and they treat them as such. That is not health care.

Ancient health care has been sneered at because it included an element of magic. There is an extant Platonic dialog that provides insight into the role that magic played in ancient health care. You could look at it as a form of placebo effect. We still have magic in health care, but we call it different things. Bedside manner falls into the category of magic. A physician with a cold manner will not be received well by any patient, except those who prefer such "professionalism." The current medical training system is more conducive to cold practitioners than warm ones. It is a microcosm of rat race competition in which the most rat-like earn the highest rewards.

The political system actually encourages charlatan practice by enforcing standards of shoddy practice. Experiments in humanistic health care delivery have been shut down by the denial of public funds on the grounds that they did not conform to the "scientific" standards of charlatan practice. Once we recognize this problem we can work effectively to promote public funding for humanistic research efforts.

Which school of reform do you find yourself in? Are you satisfied with shoddy medical practice?

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Date: 26/8/13 15:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
It helps to be really high while watching it.

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Date: 26/8/13 18:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dexeron.livejournal.com
This is, really, the only legitimate response to that video:

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Date: 26/8/13 19:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
The heavy metal devil made me do it.

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Date: 27/8/13 00:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 404.livejournal.com
Sorry guys, hard rock don't get my cock hard. The Doobies do.

But seriously, that was a great series.

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Date: 26/8/13 16:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
Before I answer the question, I'll have to ask my overlord Caesar, the master of the flat and immobile earth.

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Date: 26/8/13 16:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
I'll need to have some magic mushrooms first, or whatever the members of the most enlightened secret society in the Universe usually consume before they venture to delve into the depths of true neuropseudoscience, to expose the conspiracies of the masters of the flat and immobile Earth.

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Date: 26/8/13 17:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Ancient health care has been sneered at because it included an element of magic.

You don't think we're better off not blaming health problems on imbalances of bodily humors?
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Date: 26/8/13 17:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
As a layperson, I'm not really qualified to determine whether Asperger's is a mental issue or a physiological issue that affects mental processes but I assume there was enough evidence to change the classification.

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Date: 26/8/13 17:51 (UTC)
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I think they probably removed it for a reason but people are going to be rather confused that autism is now going to include people who have asperger's syndrome or PDD. I feel like most people are going to assume that if you're autistic than you must be severely disabled and don't really see it as a spectrum.

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Date: 26/8/13 19:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
First paragraph: False dichotomy. Also, implication that there is a 'real issue' that people are missing.

Second paragraph: More talking about the undefined 'real issue', just pointing out that it's not limited by class. Strange unrelated claims about poor people and how they view medicine.

Third paragraph: Despite not defining the problem other than 'shoddy medical services', goes immediately from the premise into the argument. Then states the obvious and doesn't answer the question posed at the start of the paragraph.

Fourth paragraph: Hopefully the question will be answered here! Oh wait no, it's not. Some unrelated praise of ancient medical practices, and then talking about how doctors are 'cold' instead of 'warm'. So, again, real issue undefined, and how to address the 'problem' is not answered.

Fifth paragraph: This is the last one that states random opinions. Apparently we've skipped supporting the premise, argument, and have delved right into the conclusion! Everything is horrible! That is the conclusion. Except that's also the premise, so we've come full circle. I assume the praise for ancient magical medicine and 'humanistic health care delivery', which is mentioned here at the end for the first time and is also undefined, are related, because why else mention them? Maybe support for homeopathy is next.

Last paragraph: Insertion of political questions so post doesn't get deleted.

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Date: 27/8/13 07:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
Thank you. At least someone appreciates me around here...

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Date: 28/8/13 00:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
That sounds like it should come with a grade :P

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Date: 26/8/13 20:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
Okay, now you've crossed the line. No, I haven't read your post (and please, don't expect me to do so), only the title.

Please, for the love of all that's holy, do NOT bastardize Zappa lyrics! I mean, great googly-moogly!

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Date: 27/8/13 00:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 404.livejournal.com


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Date: 27/8/13 03:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yelena-r0ssini.livejournal.com
Only because the X-Files thing made me think of this thing I found today:
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Date: 27/8/13 03:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yelena-r0ssini.livejournal.com
I don't know why I'm even bothering, but:

Expecting innovation to be researched and reviewed extensively before it's implemented is categorically different from thinking the status quo is "as good as it's going to get".

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