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"Random" and "Bored" are Just New Code Words For Black on White Hate Crimes

They were bored.

It was random.

No conclusions can be drawn from any of this, right?

Sorry, wrong. A gang of black kids go after a white guy and we’re supposed to believe that the victim’s whiteness didn’t factor into the equation at all? An elderly white man is brutalized and left for dead by a couple of black men and we’re being asked to believe that such vicious hate and violence was visited upon him merely by chance? A black kid brags about knocking out white people, then goes out and shoots a white man in the back, and we’re expected to believe that he wasn’t targeted for being a member of the exact race that the murderer just publicly admitted to targeting for violence? And yet a half-white guy shoots a black teen who tackled and pummeled him, and THAT was entirely motivated by racism? Oprah makes up a story about poor customer service at a swanky purse shop in Switzerland and the media runs with the “racism” headline without hesitation, meanwhile a black guy can post online that he “hates white people” right before killing a white person, and the “R” Word is never mentioned?

Lord help us. We have descended into unadulterated lunacy.


I think this is exactly right on. He says the point quite well and I don't have much to add to it. In the big effort to "fight racism", the big anti-racist power brokers are just helping perpetuate more racism and divisiveness, and this is some of the results, not by accident, but as a logical and direct outcome. If you are really against violence and racism in our society, you would advocate fighting against the three primary factors causing the large recent upswing in it:
1) A complete lack of parental guidance. 2) The evil and destructive “gangsta” culture perpetuated by rappers and other so-called “leaders” in the black community. 3) Hatred and racial animosity planted into the public conscience by certain very bad and very influential men and women.

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Date: 24/8/13 20:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
He says the point quite well and I don't have much to add to it

LOL. Typical.

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Date: 24/8/13 20:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rick-day.livejournal.com
Now now that type of non-answer will never solve any issues, it only flames the division.

Are we for division or unity? If you can't offer an opinion on the validity of the subject, why just go into attack mode.

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Date: 24/8/13 21:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com
Nice ironic reply.

And you'll note he did add to it.

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Date: 24/8/13 21:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Speaking as a bloodthirsty race pimp I think there's a genuine lack of empathy all around.

As for your 3 pillars to solve racism and violence:

1) A complete lack of parental guidance.
How exactly do we solve this?

2) The evil and destructive “gangsta” culture perpetuated by rappers and other so-called “leaders” in the black community.
So the only culture problems originate with black people? What about juggalos?

3) Hatred and racial animosity planted into the public conscience by certain very bad and very influential men and women.
Who are these very bad and very influential people? What should we do with them?
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Date: 24/8/13 21:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 404.livejournal.com
What about juggalos?

Oh god, juggalos...

Don't forget people that like Limp Bizkit. Fuck, I was photographed wearing a Limp Bizkit beanie when I was 17, I thought I was really fighting the man. Too bad it was my father who took it, oblivious to it.

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I love lists :)

Date: 24/8/13 22:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rick-day.livejournal.com
1. It is going to take a generation. Maybe two. The healing of the family unit will begin when the war on some drugs is over. It seems a bit of winding down from draconian to outrageous, so I'd give it 30 years. Once you stop splitting up fathers and mothers from their children, the community thrives.

2. With dubstep - edm. The only current pervasive music culture that worships that which abhors others in its embracement of crime as a lifestyle is hip hop. Currently that genre is running its course because even teens are emulating people who only exist as an image on a screen or stage. Currently at my EDM club, over 50% of the crowd is of the hip-hop nation. We play no hip hop. That culture is bored with the violence and ridiculous poser peers. Peace. Love. Understanding. Respect. It is the new mantra, replacing THUG TILL I DIE! There is hope, fizzy, most 'normal citizens' like you are a bit behind the times. It's getting better. Not today, not for the dead, but it is getting better.

3. Fizzy, if we could name and prove every allegation, these people would already be in prison or swinging from the gallows. But we can't because they are 'too big to fail'. But we can cripple them by by voting out of office their political toadies. It is a start. If there is no 'certain bad people', then the act of purging the status quo should get things on their way on it's own, agreed?

Re: I love lists :)

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Re: I love rabbits!

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Date: 24/8/13 22:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com
I think more should be done to promote the good and constructive "profit" culture perpetuated by capitalists and other so-called leaders in the white community. I mean, while these wannabes are knocking off a white guy here and a white guy there, true greatness is to be found in the steady, inexorable destruction of the entire planet.

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Date: 24/8/13 21:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 404.livejournal.com
They were bored.

It was random.

No conclusions can be drawn from any of this, right?


Not with the amount of data we have.

In other news, can anyone help me install Windows Vista in a Mac Pro 1,1? I am having a dickens of a time doing so.

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Date: 24/8/13 21:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Ha, I have a Hackintosh and that was pure hell.

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Are you sure you want to do that?

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Date: 24/8/13 22:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rick-day.livejournal.com
can anyone help me install Windows Vista in a Mac Pro 1,1?


I would suggest drinking shards of glass instead. Much less pain.

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Date: 25/8/13 01:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aviv-b.livejournal.com
"A gang of black kids" Three kids, two black one white do not a gang of black kids make.

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Date: 25/8/13 01:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
The white kid turned black later in the day. Like how gay marriage is turning our children homosexual.

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Date: 25/8/13 02:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
What, hyperbole is suddenly not cool anymore?

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Date: 25/8/13 20:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com
There was no "white" kid. Not all people with African ancestry are devoid of European ancestry as well. Nor are they all really dark skinned.

Just ask our white president, Barack Obama.
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Date: 25/8/13 01:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
So... are you calling out a double standard or would you prefer 'hate crimes' went away in general?

Also, all I have on these cases are the author's word for what the police said. I don't see him sourcing any of his claims.

Then again, given the other content on this site, nobody is expecting him to. Unsurprisingly, this is precisely the type of race baiting the author is supposedly calling out...
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Date: 25/8/13 02:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] musicpsych.livejournal.com
2) The evil and destructive “gangsta” culture perpetuated by rappers and other so-called “leaders” in the black community.

This is tough to talk about. It is tied up with identity and self-expression, and the idea that one group shouldn't tell another group how to define their culture, determine what's acceptable, etc. And yet that "'gangsta' culture" as you put it does feed into a negative stereotype, which is reinforced by occasional news stories that provide examples. I wouldn't be surprised if, to some people, they think they need to choose between being racist and safe, versus being not racist and not safe.

Edited to add: Man, some of the comments at that source are despicable.
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Date: 25/8/13 04:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
Every time I hear this kind of stuff it comes off like "Damn black people, being so black, why can't they be more white huh?"

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Date: 25/8/13 04:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
I don't get this trend in the posts lately, black kids getting caught committing crimes proves what?

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Date: 25/8/13 04:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vehemencet-t.livejournal.com
Thank you. Exactly, there was no long, drawn out national drama of "are they guilty" and certainly no jury will acquit them. Unlike a certain "half-white" murderer...

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Date: 25/8/13 04:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rick-day.livejournal.com
It proves that many of them are lost souls. Like that kid who shot the baby between the eyes when the mother had nothing for him to rob.

Why do you think that is, rimpala? What is wrong with youth today that causes them to be so callous about the miracle of life?

Instead of turning back comments with rhetorical questions, why don't you offer some solutions?

Trends like you notice are the result of balance. When you have one point of view presented heavily (the evilz known as Deen and Zimmerman), others will compensate with "yeah OK but what about THIS?"

It's actually sad/funny to watch people here flop positions from prior declared absolutes in order to preserve their cognitive dissonance. Most of them simply will not comment.

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Date: 26/8/13 07:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
1) A complete lack of parental guidance.

This is true of more than just black community.

2) The evil and destructive “gangsta” culture perpetuated by rappers and other so-called “leaders” in the black community.

You know that the original Gansters were white, yes? I mean, did you see Gangs of New York? What white leaders do you blame that sort of thing upon?

3) Hatred and racial animosity planted into the public conscience by certain very bad and very influential men and women.

Cough....projection....cough.

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Date: 27/8/13 18:55 (UTC)

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