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When we hear the name WikiLeaks, we probably instantly imagine its founder Julian Assange. But neither he nor his website would've probably been that famous if back in 2010 one private Bradley Manning hadn't handed them 700,000 secret US reports and diplomatic cables. Now he stood in front of military tribunal and was eventually found guilty on 20 out of 22 charges. Except the most significant one, aiding the enemy.

Still, Manning's sentence has likely confirmed Edward Snowden's biggest fears. And the latter must now be congratulating himself for the decision to leave the US before making his damning revelations that Washington was spying everyone.

25 y.o. Manning was found guilty in espionage, theft, fraud and military crime. But the court didn't fail to mention that his actions hadn't been driven by the "malicious intent" of aiding the enemy, which would've been a transgression to certainly bring him life sentence. But still, the remaining accusations are so serious that the period he could amass behind bars might total 136 years. How many exactly remains to be specified, based on what kind of damage he had caused. But it'll certainly be a helluva long time.


Manning confessed that he had given the documents to WikiLeaks, but he stated that he had done it in order to trigger a debate about US foreign policy, particularly in Iraq and Afghanistan. The materials he gave to the public include a video showing an air strike in 2007 Baghdad where several civilians (including a Reuters photographer) were killed in cold blood.

His defense did their best to present him as a naive youngster wanting to expose the military crimes of his government. In contrast, the prosecution claimed he knew of the harm he would be causing. Including the possibility that the data he was publishing would reach Al Qaeda and the Taliban, and it'd be used to hurt Americans (an essentially, the American interests would suffer).

After the court's decision was announced, Julian Assange instantly criticised it. He believes the verdict is a dangerous precedent, and an example of the extremism of national security. Revealing information to the public is not espionage, he argued. He alleged that Manning had been kept in a cage, stripped, held in isolation so they could break him. And this kind of treatment is generally condemned by the UN as torture. "This was never a fair trial", Assange commented to the media.

A large part of the trial went in debating Manning's motives for doing the biggest leak of classified information in US history. Naturally, the opinions are diametrically split on the matter: some call him a hero and a fighter for greater transparency, and have even called for awarding him a Nobel; others consider him a traitor who had put national security at risk.

"I felt I was doing something that would bring me inner peace", Manning himself said at the beginning of the trial. But the criticism to him is that the leaked information could jeopardize human lives if the activities of various informants, spies, human rights activists, journalists, dissidents, victims of violence, prosecuted suspects and others suddenly became public. The positive sides of what he did are that he brought to the light some facts showing irregularities and smelling of lies and outright crimes. The tricky question is, should sensitive information be published at any cost, especially when it could potentially put people's life to risk, create unnecessary tension in diplomatic relations and threaten ongoing and/or past secret secret operations.

Despite the long years in prison that are now Manning's future, absolving him from guilt on the most serious accusation could be viewed as some kind of partial success for his cause. It draws a clear distinction between "traitor" and "someone who publishes classified data", and it could be used in future trials on intel leaks, including the case of Edward Snowden, who's been chased by Washington for revealing details on a massive-scale surveillance program by the US government. If Manning was found guilty on that charge as well, that would potentially mean that anyone who reveals information could be charged with treason, as Al Qaeda could get its hands on it eventually (inside the den of Bin Laden some downloaded WikiLeaks materials had been found).

But this small victory of Manning and his lawyers is little consolation for the future informants and leakers. The attempts of the government to label him a traitor may have failed, granted, but as a whole, the whole case was pretty successful for them. Despite everything, he was sentenced as a spy (i.e. it's not necessary that he had intended to cause harm). And now similar charges of espionage are threatening people like Snowden. And that's sufficient to deprive them of their freedom for a very long time.

This verdict sends a clear message to all government employees that if they break the established rules (like revealing secret information), they'd be charged and found guilty. Now the likes of Manning and Snowden will know that if they discover irregularities in the system, considering the media as the first place they should report them to, would be a grave mistake for them. Obviously, they're supposed to report the case to the government inspectors who have the authority to investigate the alleged crime and propose amendments to prevent further abuse in the future. In case those irregularities are indeed something the government had not intended, or even authorised in the first place. In which case: tough life. That's Realpolitik for you.

Of course, human rights activists believe that Manning's sentence could now have a dramatic sobering effect on those who come across evidence of human rights violations, because now they'd fear arrest and prosecution. In result, a smaller number of people would be publicly reporting about violations. Which would severely affect the right of the public to have access to information, and people's trust that the authorities are ruling by the law of the land. Among some of the documents Manning published there's evidence of some US military personnel violating human rights, especially in Iraq and Yemen. And, instead of starting an investigation and punishing the ones responsible, the US administration had deflected the attention by focusing entirely on Manning's actions.

In other words, they're punishing the one who gave the public the knowledge about the true state of affairs, rather than acting upon the crimes revealed within. I.e., attacking the messenger, not the message. Because they don't like the message. While that's a well-established pattern of behaviour of most authoritarian governments, the fact that it's happening in a country where the "freedom and democracy are the values that we stand for" schtick has become something like a national mantra, and nothing is effectively being done on the matter, can be nothing but disturbing.

Meanwhile, the Manning trial will have consequences on the media as well, particularly the ones that published the leaked information. Right now the US authorities seem to be in something like a schizophrenic position. The administration is simultaneously persecuting those who publish classified documents, and claiming they want to work with Congress on crafting legislation for protecting the freedom of speech. These self-contradicting goals should be reconciled in some way unless the administration wants to further embarrass themselves, and the bad news for them is that a lot of time will be needed for that to happen, and these controversial cases will keep piling on.

It also becomes very difficult for journalists to protect their sources, because a recent court decision on the infamous Jeffrey Sterling case stipulated that those reporters who have promised anonymity to their sources could only do that if they're prepared to share the prison cell with them as well. This measure will certainly cool down the desire of those who intend to make revelations, and it'll largely shut the mouths of whistle-blowers.

What the Manning case could not achieve, though, was to cause the very necessary debate about the boundaries of secrecy, and in what case the revealing of classified information is appropriate. Snowden has demonstrated that even the threat of trial could be insufficient to prevent some actions in the area of what he believes is of crucial public interest. What this case has probably done is to make people like him more careful in the future about the way they distribute that information. If that's the case, then, despite the real threats of legal prosecution, the leaks of classified information will not cease, but will only become more anonymous.

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Date: 5/8/13 16:09 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
If Manning had been convicted of aiding and abetting the enemy, it would have meant that the liberal media are the enemy. It was okay for the Bush administration to out Valerie Plame Wilson as a CIA operative because of executive privilege and because her husband was a thought criminal for doubting the existence of WMD in Iraq.

I am so thankful that Manning will not get a life sentence. I hope to sit down and interview him 136 years from now.

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Date: 5/8/13 16:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
I know plenty of people who see his actions as heroic.

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Date: 5/8/13 17:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] root-fu.livejournal.com
Wikileaks did a decent job of protecting the identify of its sources.

Its possible harsh penalties against information leakers won't have much of an effect as long as information can be leaked anonymously and people can continue to divulge information without being caught.

Bradley's mistake was trusting Adrian Llamo (aka 'mafiaboy' aka the 'homeless hacker') who snitched on Manning and turned him in to authorities.

If not for that, I don't know that they would have successfully identified Manning or uncovered his identity.

Whether or not its legal for the state to cover up potential wrongdoing under a guise of "protecting national security" is another question that might be raised.

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Date: 5/8/13 17:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
He was a romantic and wanted to trust some human being, and he loved Adrian and though he so obviously knew he would be betrayed, he walked out on that limb. His ideology to Love and Truth did him in, and the world obliged and crucified him for daring to do so. He must have felt so alone, that was my impression from reading the transcripts of their communications anyway.

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Date: 5/8/13 17:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] root-fu.livejournal.com
I read the transcripts back when the case was first in the news and people were defending Llamo on Wired.com.

I don't remember any details, quite the interesting perspective you have.

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Date: 5/8/13 17:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Apparently, my government adheres to the "No snitching, else bad things will happen to you" doctrine of thuggery.

Dead finks don't talk, and I guess 136 years in a military prison is pretty close to dead. The message is clear. At least he made his parents proud.
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Date: 5/8/13 20:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
Snitches wind up in ditches.

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Date: 5/8/13 23:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
The UCMJ is not civil law.

Even if it were, are you really surprised (http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/obama-wages-war-on-whistleblowers-and-journalists-a-912852.html)

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Date: 6/8/13 01:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Now we're into legitimate criticism of the Obama administration-land, as far as I am concerned.

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Date: 5/8/13 20:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
I'm thinking the only thing worse than prison is military prison. And I don't think he can expect to ever be released - I'm sure the powers that be want to ensure that an example is made of Manning.

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Date: 5/8/13 20:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brother-dour.livejournal.com
I consider Manning and Snowden to be heroes. Someone needs to watch the watchman. Always.

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Date: 5/8/13 22:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
And yet they're both being persecuted. By this paragon of liberty that is 'Merka.

I must be missing something. ;-)

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Date: 6/8/13 01:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brother-dour.livejournal.com
You're not missing anything.

My views are not necessarily those of my government.

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Date: 9/8/13 10:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
You are missing our nationalism (http://talk-politics.livejournal.com/1748301.html?thread=139384653#t139384653).

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Date: 5/8/13 21:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com
Maybe now he can quit wearing the uniform he shit on.

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Date: 9/8/13 10:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
At least his severed head isn't mounted upon the pentagon's gates, as some would have.

Why not give him a dishonorable discharge and be done with it? Now, he's just going to rot in an American military prison for all his life to be some kind of lesson to anyone else who wants to expose videos of our helicopters firing upon kids and journalists (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0).

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Date: 9/8/13 14:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com
The helicopters in Iraq had been fired upon before the incident happened; even the video you linked to said some of the people on the ground were armed. Mistakes happen in war; it has been estimated that up to 15% of the people named on the Vietnam Wall were victims of 'friendly fire'.

People who are actually on the ground fighting need to know that some little shit working in communications isn't spewing classified information out to the world. He deserves more than a dishonorable discharge.

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Date: 6/8/13 10:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
The problem with Manning is that he was indiscriminate, so he had no basis to claim he was merely a whistleblower. If he had focused on specific information rather than just grabbing a ton of stuff, he would have had a reasonable defense. This is what Snowden did and he is clearly a whistleblower and not a traitor. But yes, both these cases show the lie the government tells to keep the people placated.

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Date: 6/8/13 11:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com
I suspect any of these guys would've been instantly labeled a traitor to the Fatherland no matter what their motivations, had this happened under a GWB (or, heaven forbid, a Romney) tenure. And more curiously, it'd be done by the same people who are now using it to rhetorically smite the current Kenyan Islamofascist-socialist who's sitting in the White House.

You know, Realpolitik.

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Date: 7/8/13 03:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merig00.livejournal.com
A new Bloomberg News investigation shows that Attorney General Eric Holder’s Justice Department has indicted six government workers under the act for leaking information. If that doesn’t sound like a lot, consider that until President Barack Obama took office, there had been only three such cases in U.S. history.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-18/obama-s-whistle-blower-witch-hunt.html

And there are more articles on this administration's crusade against whistleblowers. How many whistleblowers were prosecuted under GWB?

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Date: 7/8/13 20:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
You're lumping quite a few unrelated things together for no apparent reason.

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Date: 7/8/13 15:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] root-fu.livejournal.com
Assange speaks on the topic (he has some interesting things to say).

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