[identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
Pennsylvania Judge Sentenced For 28 Years For Selling Kids to the Prison System.

Given this community has now come up with a sound and truthful distinction between "racism" and "culturalism" (because one is OBVIOUSLY ok, and the other ISN'T lolwhut?), I figured we might as well start the same old fight all over again. Cuz we can do this as long as we need to. Everything still applies. White culture is a culture that trafficks children, sexually, for profit, legally, for profit, starves orphans and widows, destroys families, and trains lawyers. If you don't take this as a microcosm of the American paradigm, you are a racist. If you deny that white culture has enslaved and destroyed an entire people, conceived in mass rape, you are a racist. If you deny that white capitalism has criminalized millions of people along racial lines, you are a racist. If you deny that this country was built on a foundation of bones and slavery, you are a racist. If you deny that this country was built upon the dead infants of the First Nations, you are a racist.

If you don't ask yourself why the NRA isn't saying that Trayvon Martin would be alive today if he had only carried a handgun, you are a racist. If you don't ask yourself why, you are a racist. If you think that smoking weed should be a crime, you are a racist. Cuz that's the thing about racism, you don't have to acknowledge it. You could go your entire life without ever hearing or knowing of a concept of "racism", and you could still be racist. That's how it works, you see. There was no concept of racism in 2300 BC, but you bet your ass they were racist. The idea that one can be racist based upon whether or not one explicitly adopts the label is the silliest sort of White People Thinking you can come up with. It's like saying you're not a Criminal unless you accept the label. Well in that case, no one in prison is guilty either, geniuses.

I mean, do you guys think you're clever? Oh we'll just throw all the black people in prison and then argue about how that depicts a certain cultural characteristic. Yes, genius, it's a certain cultural characteristic called, "being prone to being thrown in jail." Are these depths of self-delusion and obtuse reasoning hard to attain, or are people just acting this disingenuously? (You can't say "stupid", you have to say "disingenuously.")

Yes I know, every single racist that ever lived had very good reasons for their racism, backed up by statistics and facts, and every racist who ever lived was certain that they were simply dealing with the facts, however disingenously cherry-picked, or viciously slanted, or intentionally obtuse. I mean, really, you're trying this again? What, you all thought we forgot how this worked? JEWS HAVE MORE MONEY, FACT! JEWS RUN A LOT OF BANKS, FACT! Take this grade-school conspiracy thinking back to where it belongs- in the grave.

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Date: 30/7/13 22:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Ruh roh!
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Date: 31/7/13 01:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
popcorn?

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Date: 30/7/13 22:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com
Did the article say all those kids were black? I didn't see that part.

It seems like the real issue with that article you linked is that privatization of the prison system creates a perverse profit motive, and should be... abolished.

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Date: 30/7/13 23:26 (UTC)
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I sense some jealousy on your part about our control of the global financial system. Get over it!

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Date: 31/7/13 00:49 (UTC)
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I hope this doesn't break the rules because this is how I genuinely feel after reading that.

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Date: 31/7/13 16:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
I suppose that does not break the rules because it is a personal attack that lacks sufficient direction to be taken personally.

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Date: 31/7/13 01:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oportet.livejournal.com
I just figured he wasn't old enough to legally possess a firearm...

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Date: 31/7/13 05:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
doesn't the NRA wanna lower that age limit?

why do you wanna trample the 2nd amendment rights of minors? CONSTITUION WHARGLLEBARGLEE

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Date: 31/7/13 01:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
I'm mentally about to give up on this, white people are clearly superior to everyone else. There, is that's what you people want to hear?

I'm so exasperated I could drink.
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Date: 31/7/13 01:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com
I wouldn't mind seeing some consistency from you.

Whatever, I don't expect you to see how making broad statements about a whole religion is considered trolling. (http://talk-politics.livejournal.com/1744491.html?thread=139113067#t139113067)

But you don't seem to have much trouble with broad statements about a whole race.

Then there's the whole "culture" talk:

I'm going out on a limb here, but I imagine Muslims don't like to be thought of as some abstract, highly generalized group of all Muslim culture. (-"http://talk-politics.livejournal.com/1744491.html?thread=139109739#t139109739")

But when someone says "It is clear and undeniable how corrupt white culture is.", you don't seem to have a problem with it.

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Date: 31/7/13 02:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
I don't understand why racism has to forever be a competition between white and black to see who's earned more respect.

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Date: 31/7/13 02:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flaming-goat.livejournal.com
Your post is racist and culturalist and you should feel bad.

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Date: 31/7/13 02:39 (UTC)
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Somehow I don't think this is going to be productive.

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Date: 31/7/13 02:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
When is anything productive T_T

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Date: 31/7/13 02:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
I think these problems arise from not understanding human nature. While I don't understand it either, I find the following a helpful guide:
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Date: 31/7/13 05:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
Private prisons are the brainchild of a Ferengi and a Cardassian.
Xenophobia just lets people rid their conscience.Those who have one.

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Date: 31/7/13 07:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvdovz.livejournal.com
You forgot "Aw-hell-yea".

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Date: 31/7/13 08:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerseycajun.livejournal.com
I'm going to regret asking this, but where is the race angle you're getting out of your linked article coming from?

Or perhaps is it there is some kind of hidden point within a phantom point within a post without any readily apparent point? Like 'Inception' but without the part of it being actually clever?

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Date: 31/7/13 11:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dukexmachismo.livejournal.com
Personally, I have nothing against racists. There's this racist guy at work, and I treat him just like anyone else.

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Date: 31/7/13 16:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
Good point. Hating racists makes as much sense as hating infants who pee their own pants.

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Date: 31/7/13 11:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
I have to admit that the American experiment of privatising "Justice" seems doomed to throw up a lot more cases like this: which makes me next to ecstatic, of course, that my country seems to be travelling a similar path.

Fuck it. Force folk to pay enough in taxes to have a secure and corruption-free judiciary: club dues for living in a state that prides itself on "Justice".

As for the race thing: it appears to be part of the essential medium of an unpleasant part of our culture. Most of these folk self-identify by reminding themselves they are not "other".

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Date: 31/7/13 16:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
I would not call that privatizing justice. It is more like outsourcing incarceration. Americans may have gotten the idea from reading Jeremy Bentham who advocated cost efficient prison facilities. The corruption of the judiciary existed long before the outsourcing of incarceration facilities to private contractors.

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Date: 31/7/13 14:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brother-dour.livejournal.com
I find your criteria for who is racist to be highly suspect. It rather boils down to, "if you don't think the way I do, you are racist"

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Date: 31/7/13 16:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
Smoking weed has yet to be criminalized. Unlicensed possession of a controlled substance, on the other hand...

Racism is a programmed way of thinking. It does not derive from rational thought processes. Consider it to be more like a religion than anything else.

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Date: 1/8/13 01:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yelena-r0ssini.livejournal.com
I love that you made this post, partly because it's a beautiful post and partly because of the flailing and point-missing going on in the comments.

And man, that judge. That fucking judge. Makes me so uncomfortable because now I have to worry about explaining to people that I'm not THAT sort of white person, that we're not ALL like that... oh wait. :)

Seriously though I'm developing a greater loathing for my current home state by the day.

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Date: 2/8/13 06:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] musicpsych.livejournal.com
I am so confused right now.

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Date: 2/8/13 09:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
White people are far more likely to arm ICBM's with nuclear warheads.

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Date: 4/8/13 11:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] il-mio-gufo.livejournal.com
re: Pennsylvania Judge Sentenced For 28 Years For Selling Kids to the Prison System.

This particular topic makes me contemplate the day when our society will rid ourselves of this ancient/outdated practice of imprisonment, and choose to employ a more effective system of rehabilitation and redemption.

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