High flyin' retail
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In case the video above doesn't embed (thanksalot, LJ, I myself can't see it), Menard's hiring local workers [Eau Claire, WI] to commute weekly to North Dakota store:
...in Minot, that is part of the problem. There are too many jobs and not enough people to fill them.
"You hit that labor pool and you start running out, and we have this need, and we think this is the best way to fill it," said John Leonausks, the Marketing Director for Menards.
The oil boom is a mini gold rush in a way, driving people out west for work. Leonausks says it is a way to bring some of that prosperity back to Eau Claire.
"From our perspective, we have planes, let's find people in Eau Claire and get people hired in Eau Claire and fly them out there to take care of those jobs," he added.
The starting wage is $13 per hour. On top of that, a weekend bonus, extra for working in the yard, overtime and meal stipends, too.
From the Leader-Telegram:
In Eau Claire, a community in which residents often cringe at the idea of commutes exceeding 15 minutes, Menards officials concocted the idea of the air commute of more than 500 miles one-way in response to being unable to find enough staff for their 16-year-old store in Minot, where the latest unemployment rate is 2.2 percent, as many workers flock to higher-paying jobs in the Bakken oil fields.
MacMartin said he is aware of oil companies that arrange charter flights to bring work crews to the area every two weeks and recalls that Olive Garden brought in workers from other locations temporarily to staff a new restaurant in Minot, but he hasn't heard of other retailers going to such lengths to find employees.
"In Menards' case, they are reacting and trying to do whatever they have to do to make their business model work," MacMartin said.
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MacMartin, who insisted the good far outweighs the bad when it comes to North Dakota's booming economy, said he sees no end in sight for the state's rapid growth.
And Menards is committed to continue fueling its planes if that's what it takes to do its part to keep fueling the boom.
"This is going to be a permanent solution for as far as we can see," Leonauskas said.
North Dakota has an unemployment rate of 3.1% (Oct); Ward County, where Minot is located, 2.4% (Sept). The oil patch in the western part of the state has it the worst/best -- some counties have registered rates below 1%. Those who aren't working are either unable or unwilling, neither of which is necessarily "a bad thing," aside from those who are unable and would like to work, which a bad thing from a personal perspective.
(In before "But it's North Dakota!" -- not every state has the weather and amenities of Southern California, so why in the world would anyone go anywhere else for a job? Just sayin'.)
In the spirit of TP, I'll take the opportunity to point out the evils of capitalism: a company with private jets, money to send 50 employees 600 miles away, and pay for their room and board... so why don't they pay their employees in Eau Claire better? Or any one of the other states in which they are located? Answers in the comments below, I'm assuming. ;)
I'd posit that like most chain stores, this kind of variance in pay is directly related to the profitability of the store: if, for example, Eau Claire's Menard's brought in the kind of revenue that Minot's store is doing, they would need more employees; if the employees were hard to find, they'd raise the pay to attract applicants. If the potential workforce can get more money elsewhere, either through other employers or other means, then why bother working at Menard's? As for Minot's case -- it's either this or they can't serve the community and may as well close down in the face of stunning demand for their products and services.
John Menard started building post frames to put himself through college in 1959. So he didn't start out with a silver spoon in his mouth. Whether or not he's a bad man now (see environmental and labor complaints at the wiki page, he was one of the 99% who were struggling to make a life for themselves fifty years ago. Most of us start out that way, I assume, and I doubt we intend to become an evil capitalist along the way.
But in the meantime, let's break down what's being offered here, from the comments at the page linked (Tyler Polzin, ten year employee who moved out to Minot before the fly-in option was offered):
Perspective from a 10 year veteran on what the fly-ins would be making, best case scenario: If they worked in the Receiving/Outside Yard areas, they'd be making $14.50/hour, +$2.50 more on weekends, +20 hours of overtime, +$15/day for food, plus a free hotel stay WITH continental breakfast/pool/hot-tub, plus they get to be home in Eau Claire two or three days a week depending on their schedule. I'm grossing anywhere from $1,300-$1,500 a week and am on track to bring in $75,000 next year. Somebody in management could catapult that into 6 figures.
That they're still looking for applicants in this economy boggles my mind.
(ETA: sorry, I meant to put an LJ cut in the initial post. Mea culpa!)
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Date: 26/11/12 21:10 (UTC)1. Not everyone who is out of work knows that there are these jobs out there.
2. Even people who do need a job may not want this particular job. This is true for a great many jobs, including some that pay a lot of money and chronically have a hard time finding workers.
As for the flight vs. pay more, I suspect a lot of it has to do with how freaking hard it is to get people to relocate. This is not entirely irrational. Relocating sucks. You have to typically sign a year lease or buy a new home (which isn't cheap, and is pretty risky if you're not sure the job will be around for a full year, or at least long enough to make relocating worthwhile). You have to move away from your family and friends, which may not be a big deal if your recreational activities were playing video games for a few hours after work, but may be brutal if you have a working spouse + small children who you kind of want to see from time to time. In this case, it might be easier to convince people that making $14 with an air commute every few days >>> earning, say, $20/hr but having to relocate. (Esp. as I'd guess that there aren't a whole lot of commercial flights that go out to Minot as is, so arranging a similar situation for yourself would be quite difficult/expensive.) I'd guess that Menards' has tried both scenarios, for what it's worth, and has probably found that it's flat out cheaper to fly people in for a week at a time than it is to try and hire in Minot's for more money.
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Date: 26/11/12 23:14 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 27/11/12 00:54 (UTC)"Data from 'Out of Reach' supports what we know about North Dakota. Low-income families are still struggling to find decent and affordable housing in communities across the state," said Tom Alexander, board chairman of the housing alliance and project director at North Dakota Center for People with Disabilities in Minot. The report was misleading in counties in oil country, where average renter wages exceeded the Fair Market Rent because of the number of high-paying oil-field jobs. Average renter wage was as high as $33.55 in Slope County in southwestern North Dakota. The wage needed to afford a two-bedroom apartment in McKenzie County was $11.23, while the average renter wage there was $21.68. In Williams County, the average renter wage of $19.68 adequately covers the $11.63 an hour needed to rent a $605 two-bedroom apartment in the unlikely scenario that such housing can be found. Vacancy rates in Williston and Minot hover around zero, Carbone said. Meanwhile, rents skyrocket.
Due to the boom out there in Minot, rent prices have gone up almost 2000% and making $14.50/hour won't cut it, even with all of those benefits thrown in. As one local has questioned (http://www.city-data.com/forum/north-dakota/540969-minot-housing-prices.html):
What is going on with the housing prices in Minot and the surrounding areas? Since I moved away 3 years ago housing prices have gone up at least $50,000 if not more. Why are folks getting so greedy and trying to sell houses for so much money. For an average newer home your looking at around 225,000 -250,000. Wages in Minot can't support those kind of prices. I'm looking at moving back there but prices are more expensive than they are here in Florida, and you make less money in N.D. to boot. That's crazy.
Good luck finding a non-pricey place to live in a boom town. If you have a boom, you're going to pay out the nose for many things.
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Date: 27/11/12 08:50 (UTC)(Foreigner asking here).
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