[identity profile] luvdovz.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
Just 10 days before the presidential election, Obama's campaign released a video that fanned the flame of passions even more, just as the vote is looking very close. The reason is that the "Your First Time" campaign ad explains that voting is like sex, so it's very important who you're doing it with, especially at your first time.

The actress Lena Dunham (in the ad, looking considerably sexier than in real), explains that your first time shouldn't be with just anyone, you want to do it with an awesome guy who really cares about women and who understands them. She goes on to tell her story how her first man had been awesome, how it was a turning point in her life - she had been a girl before, and became a woman after. So she went to the ballots and cast her vote for Obama. Applause.

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For many, the vid is amusing and provocative, although one'd easily recall that similar sexual jabs were made by other candidates, including Reagan who, during a meeting with workers in the 70s, joked that there's nothing too bad about voting Republican - after all, he had been a Democrat too, once; first it may hurt a bit, but then it's pleasuresome for the rest of your life. Applause again.

But of course, many of the more conservative leaning folks are appalled, appalled I tell you!, from this equating of voting to the loss of virginity and "the sexualization of the voting process", OMG. Some among the hardline Republicans have already sharply condemned the approach of the Obama campaign and expressed anger that the kids are forced to watch such inappropriate stuff under the pretext of a political ad. "If voting is like sex," tweeted Ben Domenech, "you're doing one of them wrong".

And there are those in the middle, like advert expert Steve Hall who says: "Some might argue the comparison is crude and irrelevant. I'd disagree and argue a decision regarding who enters a woman's body is even more important than who enters the White House. It's actually a rather brilliant move on the part of the Obama campaign". Others among his colleagues explain that, because there's nothing sexy in voting, campaigns are trying to do something about it and make voting at least a little more appealing to young people, by sprinkling an element of fun into it. Because it sure won't be as fun the next time.

Dunham herself has tried to assume a defensive position and divert the attention with some tweets, where she said that, while the vid may be superficial, the message is pretty serious: "Vote for women's rights". Which may or may not have been its main point - that judgment I'm leaving to the audience.

What I find more interesting is that this trick or a similar one was used by Putin's supporters during his latest election campaign earlier this year. The approach here seems to have been lifted from a series of Putin campaign ads, where a girl was wondering whom should she "do it" with in her first time. She went to a medium, saying that she'd better have her first sex with someone she loved, while the cards showed that the man for her was Putin, that he'd bring her happiness and security and protection like a stone wall. Not exactly the most romantic metaphor, but ultimately, as the ad implies, the best possible choice.

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Given the mental baggage, attention span, and priority ranking of the average voter (whichever country you look at, in fact), it's no surprise that such political ads tend to resonate much better than the ones saying "Use your mind, vote with your brain" (if those ever existed anyway). They are manipulative, and they do call upon the most basic instincts in the voter, but apparently they do work. So yes, appealing to reason and logic and asking people to know exactly what they want and why and how to achieve it, and to fully understand how this politician or the other would defend their interests (or more likely, which candidate would do less harm than the other), would ultimately be a futile effort; not to mention how boring such an advert would sound.

And people do switch on their TV expecting to get some entertainment after a grey dull day, right? Which is why you wouldn't see campaign ads of the "reasonable" sort any time soon. Instead, we'll be hearing more about death panels, this guy or the other planning to destroy America by bringing socialism and/or fascism (exactly why any ruler would want to rule over a ruined country is beyond me)... or something else of the same sort that's utter and complete bollocks. And we'll continue to nod our heads, or get enraged, depending which side of the barricade we've chosen to put our plump armchair-bound asses on.

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Date: 30/10/12 13:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blondebaroness.livejournal.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAkdHzpXXo0&feature=share

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Date: 30/10/12 16:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] new-wave-witch.livejournal.com
I thought the ad was stupid and demeaning too. This parody you're posting, though, is actually pretty disgusting.

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Date: 30/10/12 19:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, one should only endorse gay marriage when it's politically inconvenient. It's not valid unless a Republican does it, because, well they won't. Ever.

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Date: 30/10/12 13:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blondebaroness.livejournal.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSxDE1QCHA4&feature=share

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Date: 30/10/12 17:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvGprDcp9Ts

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Date: 30/10/12 13:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blondebaroness.livejournal.com
Vote for Obama with your lady parts. Be punished with a man-child for another 4 years.

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Date: 30/10/12 14:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Personally I think that Right-Wing fear of liberals is connected to fear of their *man* parts, but that comes from a long experience of hearing the obsession with Clinton's cheating on his wife and fear of oversexualized black men.

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Date: 30/10/12 15:47 (UTC)
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Be punished with a man-child

What a lovely joke. "And the holy spirit said to thee, but Mary, you shall be punished with a man-child."

I get it.

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Date: 30/10/12 16:17 (UTC)
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Oh I see. I should be belittled for caring about my right to healthcare. A significant portion of the country wanting to take away or obstruct my right to medical procedures that could save my life or make my life livable shouldn't concern me and should suggest that I'm thinking with my genitals and not my brain. I should realize that being concerned with my own health came not from my own devices but that of the man I may vote for. Basically, caring about these issues makes me a cunt. Thank you for educating me.
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Date: 30/10/12 19:52 (UTC)
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I'd tell you how offensive that is, but I'm sure you know that already.

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Date: 30/10/12 20:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com
This looks like one of the more pathetic trolling attempts that we've seen around in a while.

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Date: 30/10/12 21:26 (UTC)
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I hear women have a natural defense against that sort of thing.

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Date: 31/10/12 01:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
Vote for Obama with your lady parts.

Okay, if it's literal, that would be a video to see. Sign me up.

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Date: 30/10/12 14:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
The ad, for me, encapsulates so many of the problems with the Obama campaign overall.

1) It completely misreads the cultural landscape, both in terms of appropriateness (for better or for worse, we're still a nation of prudes) and in terms of knowledge (how many people really know who Lena Dunham is? I love Girls and thought Tiny Furniture was what it was, but it's no Game of Thrones culturally-speaking).

2) It's a Hail Mary pass of sorts, the type of base play a campaign that's flailing has to make.

3) It continues a focus on issues that the nation isn't caring much about. Ever since the first debate, when Romney effectively dismantled $200b worth of Obama campaign attempts to define him, the Obama camp has gone after social issues repeatedly and tries a bunch of weird meme-like tactics ("Romnesia," Dunham, Big Bird, binders, etc). The result has been a continued decline in the polls and no recovery.

4) It makes the campaign look a little ridiculous. The limited resources the Obama campaign has (and they are limited, otherwise OfA wouldn't have to borrow $15 million three weeks out (http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00431445/821325/sc1/ALL)), and they're spending time and energy on this?

For many, the vid is amusing and provocative, although one'd easily recall that similar sexual jabs were made by other candidates, including Reagan who, during a meeting with workers in the 70s, joked that there's nothing too bad about voting Republican - after all, he had been a Democrat too, once; first it may hurt a bit, but then it's pleasuresome for the rest of your life. Applause again.

There's a difference between a joke at a meeting and an official campaign ad, which really highlights the difference here. If this was an offhand comment by Obama at some campaign event, most would probably laugh it off or offer it up as fodder for a day or two - that we're still talking about this Dunham ad, and few are talking about it positively?

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Date: 30/10/12 14:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
So, social issues are irrelevant now. I didn't know a nation is only able to focus on one issue, namely in this case "Jobs, jobs, jobs".

The OP might be right about the average attention span of voters, after all.

There's a difference between a joke at a meeting and an official campaign ad

Yep, the difference being that said joke is actually being pronounced by the actual candidate himself, in person.

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Date: 30/10/12 14:22 (UTC)
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1) In what universe is Game of Thrones a specifically broad phenomenon apart from the Internet? I was under the impression that Harry Potter, Twilight, and Left Behind were all collectively more well-known than any fantasy or science fiction series. More people can name all seven members of the Justice League of America, I'd wager, than could name the difference between the Targyarens, the Baratheons, and the Starks and Lannisters.

2) As opposed, presumably, to Romney's campaign which has been one farce after aother?

3) Do you have proof that the nation doesn't care about it?

4) As opposed to Romney, who's running against Obama and Romney-the-governor?

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Date: 30/10/12 19:18 (UTC)
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"There's a difference between a joke at a meeting and an official campaign ad, which really highlights the difference here. If this was an offhand comment by Obama at some campaign event, most would probably laugh it off or offer it up as fodder for a day or two - that we're still talking about this Dunham ad, and few are talking about it positively?"

I have a feeling that if it was the other way around, the dismissive comment would be 'there is a difference between someone who is merely a spokesperson saying it, but this was Obama saying it himself'. It's pretty easy to spin it either way depending on your political bias.

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Date: 30/10/12 14:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Personally I'd think that voting would be rather less pleasant than sex as people are only supposed to vote one time in any single election.

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Date: 30/10/12 15:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
Btw is that Dunham the same like the other Dunham?

Image

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Date: 30/10/12 18:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
I thought Lena Dunham looked fine in all those pictures.

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Date: 30/10/12 19:35 (UTC)
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They don't mention anything about your first time being a letdown, about the huge gap between your expectations of your first, and how they actually turn out. Pretty clever counter-commercial there, but I doubt the Republicans would go for it.

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Date: 30/10/12 19:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
So you're saying that voting is really a whole lot like sex

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Date: 30/10/12 19:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allhatnocattle.livejournal.com
This ad is awesome. It specifically appeals to the demographic of voters who will think this is funny. If you're offended by this ad you will probably vote for the other guy. And those offended are likely in the minority.

Those offended will no doubt publicize this ad unwittingly by declaring their outrage. They will then be mocked by the more reasonable people.

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Date: 30/10/12 23:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayjayuu.livejournal.com
And then they guy swears he loves you and will take care of you the rest of your life. Only he turns out to be a fickle lying son-of-a-bitch, who shacks up with another honey who looks better than you. And when you find yourself "in trouble" he'll either pay you to get rid of it or you can do it yourself, or raise it without him. Or take him to court to get some measly sum that doesn't really help much but keeps you from starving in your HUD housing.

He doesn't like how you're raising his kid, either. He'll criticize and find ways to manipulate you into doing it his way, or force you to do so with the threat of taking the baby away. And then he'll turn the kid against you when it's old enough to be schooled, telling it that mommy doesn't know what's best, daddy does. Here's a sucker, we'll have fun, and you'll never ever be criticized or lose at anything again.

Only he's really a pedophile and wants to screw them too.

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