[identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
Weather forecasters in the Northeastern United States had a forlorn winter season last year with the only real excitement in the form of an unusually strong Nor'easter that dumped snow on the coast close to Halloween. There was precious little to do the rest of the winter except avoid making jokes about Al Gore.



Hurricane Sandy is expected to be forced towards the mid-Atlantic/New England region by high pressure over the Atlantic. Once the hurricane turns, it will meet with a powerful cold front and an unusually southern jet stream -- which has the potential to STRENGTHEN the storm just when most tropical systems lose strength. The result is expected to be a "Frankenstorm" cobbled together out of many different systems to rival the 1991 event called 'The Perfect Storm'. Inland and higher elevation regions can expect snow and high winds, while coastal regions can expect heavy storm surge, rainfall in excess of 10 inches, extensive flooding and tropical storm force winds hundreds of miles from the storm center.

Put bluntly: the entire meteorological community is more excited and giddy than Donald Trump offering a 5 million dollar bounty on the President's college transcripts.

Hopefully, the hype will turn out to be far more than the results, but as a semi-serious question, and reflecting [livejournal.com profile] ddstory's post on the Italian scientists who were actually prosecuted and convicted for failing to give warning of an earthquake...despite the complete inability of their field to predict earthquakes, one has to wonder where is the point of diminishing returns on official warnings of acts of nature? Many new things could yet happen with this storm and while I am grateful to see preparations for power outages and flooding taking place now, I worry about the dulling of the impact of those preparations and warnings if people process them as "crying wolf" in the event the storm is much less severe. As consumers of scientific knowledge, Americans are, frankly, terrible. We don't usually possess the math and science backgrounds to properly digest information from experts or to dissect how the media repackages that information, usually poorly. When the weather forecast says there is a 30% chance of rain, you did not take your umbrella "for nothing" when you encounter no rain...nor did the forecast fail you when you did not take one and got drenched. But we certainly act that way.

If you are one of the people potentially in the path of "Frankenstorm" how are you taking in the reporting? How will you respond if the storm turns out to be as bad...or not as bad as feared?

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Date: 26/10/12 22:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com
"Frankenstorm" must be the "New Meteorology" term; personally I would have gone with "Stormgate".

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Date: 26/10/12 22:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
A strong storm-front.

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Date: 26/10/12 23:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paedraggaidin.livejournal.com
Bah! Why can't we get that in Arkansas!? I miss real winters!

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Date: 27/10/12 00:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
I grew up in coastal Virginia, I take such storm precautions seriously and picked up items at the store this afternoon. It's the wind shield that makes this storm so bad.

As of tonight, the Weather Channel reports the computer modeling suggests this storm will hit between Philly and Long Island (ironically the "European model" is the most accurate) and is predicting a hit near NYC. And all the models (I think ten of them) point to a direct hit on the Eastern seaboard.

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Date: 27/10/12 00:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rick-day.livejournal.com
Well, they choose to live up north. They got to get used to it.

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Date: 27/10/12 00:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rick-day.livejournal.com
So what do you want? People who live in the side of volcanos know the risk.

People who live north of Maryland accept that these weather events happen. If they don't want to deal with it...

I invite my liberal yankee friends to relo Down South, and take back state government from GOP yay-hoos
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Date: 27/10/12 00:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Oh, ok.
Edited Date: 27/10/12 00:58 (UTC)

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Date: 27/10/12 01:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
New England, Zone Of Deathâ„¢

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Date: 27/10/12 01:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
No, that would be Australia, Zone of Death, and New England, Zone of Patriots Fans. ;)

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Date: 27/10/12 01:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
I MISSED THE SIGN ON I-95!

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Date: 27/10/12 01:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rick-day.livejournal.com
I want fiber.

Let's call the whole thing off...*sings*

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Date: 27/10/12 12:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rick-day.livejournal.com
I consider it a personality enhancement; an asset.

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Date: 27/10/12 22:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auntiesiannan.livejournal.com
You are not Jughead. You are Reggie.

Technically, I am most like...

Date: 28/10/12 00:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rick-day.livejournal.com
Image (http://rick-day.livejournal.com/pics/catalog/375/43256)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiram_Lodge

Now go fetch me my checkbook...
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Date: 28/10/12 00:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auntiesiannan.livejournal.com
I ain't Smithers.

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Date: 27/10/12 01:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malakh-abaddon.livejournal.com
Given my situation I hope it's not that bad, but I have heard we can expect 3-5 feet. Yeah it sounds high, but I don't have regular tv in my tent, but people spazzing makes me nervous given my position.

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Date: 27/10/12 02:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] policraticus.livejournal.com
I'll be in the eye of the storm, just like Irene. I find the reporting absurd, but I am glad that its gives me time to batten down the hatches and lay in supplies. I think we'll be sheltering in place. Wish me luck.

If Sandy blows away my brand new duck blind, I am going to be seriously irritated.

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Date: 27/10/12 18:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
^What he said.

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Date: 27/10/12 18:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] policraticus.livejournal.com
In an excess of caution, we are decamping for higher ground tomorrow. I fear we will be no better off at the brother-in-laws than here, but at least the kids will have a diversion in their cousins.

My thoughts are now with my blind. I've lost three over the years, but none as nice as this. I filled the garvey with water today, it won't be blowing away with 1500 pounds of water weighing it down. If it floats away... that will be the least of my worries. In 100 years we haven't had water within 50 yards of our house.

Thank you for your concern and good wishes.
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Date: 29/10/12 08:05 (UTC)

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Date: 27/10/12 13:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rick-day.livejournal.com
looks like snow in the forcast

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Date: 27/10/12 20:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
Looks like something out of Metalocalypse

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Date: 27/10/12 15:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dexeron.livejournal.com
It's referred to as "Frankenstorm's Monster," or simply "The Monster". Frankenstorm is the name of the guy who created it.
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USING HAARP!!!!!!!!111!!ELEVENTYONE!11!!!

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Date: 27/10/12 15:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com
Obviously this is a ploy by Obama to stymie Romney's unstoppable Mittmentum. (http://www.infowars.com/could-frankenstorm-delay-presidential-election/)

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Date: 27/10/12 16:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
Why do these weather events always have to happen during election time???

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Date: 28/10/12 05:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yelena-r0ssini.livejournal.com
I'm directly where it's supposed to hit as of current predictions, and... eh. We have some bottled water, some flashlights, some jar candles, some nonperishables. Spent the day clearing the yard and porch of anything that could get blown around, and the night at my job (I work at a grocery store) coming to the conclusion that people are fucking INSANE. I get why we sold out of bottled water and batteries but there is not a single banana left in the whole entire store and... what. Why bananas? Also, why were so many people buying flashlights - don't they own flashlights?

Current plan is to stay here until we see where and how it hits. We can handle a couple of days without power but if it looks like there are worse things afoot, we'll decamp for somewhere further inland for a while.

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