Paft: An employer determines whether or not an employee continues working and therefore has a regular paycheck, that enables the employee to pay for basics like food, shelter, etc, An employer determines whether or not an employee continues working and therefore has health insurance. v: Funny. A man is such a passive thing as you tell this story, determined whether to work or not. Doesn't decide a thing. It doesn't match my experience from both sides though.
What planet are you living on?
Because on the one where I'm living, being employed is pretty damned important, and many owho are either currently without employment or are struggling in low-paying jobs with no benefits show why. They include twenty-somethings staggering under a mountain of debt. They include 50-somethings who are discovering just how hard it is to find a job when you're over a certain age. It includes people who are making decisions nobody in an advanced western society should have to make about whether they are going to pay rent, pay utilities, pay for that medicine that keeps them healthy and/or alive, or that medical test that would alert them to the existence of cancer or some other serious condition, or that operation that would prevent them from becoming disabled.
v: You can't force me work if I don't wan to, and I can't force you to hire me if you don't want to.
No, but you sure as hell can force people out of work.
v: It's a game for two.
To people struggling to get by, it's not a "game."
And their struggle is not taking place on a level field.
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Date: 20/10/12 18:39 (UTC)v: Funny. A man is such a passive thing as you tell this story, determined whether to work or not. Doesn't decide a thing.
It doesn't match my experience from both sides though.
What planet are you living on?
Because on the one where I'm living, being employed is pretty damned important, and many owho are either currently without employment or are struggling in low-paying jobs with no benefits show why. They include twenty-somethings staggering under a mountain of debt. They include 50-somethings who are discovering just how hard it is to find a job when you're over a certain age. It includes people who are making decisions nobody in an advanced western society should have to make about whether they are going to pay rent, pay utilities, pay for that medicine that keeps them healthy and/or alive, or that medical test that would alert them to the existence of cancer or some other serious condition, or that operation that would prevent them from becoming disabled.
v: You can't force me work if I don't wan to, and I can't force you to hire me if you don't want to.
No, but you sure as hell can force people out of work.
v: It's a game for two.
To people struggling to get by, it's not a "game."
And their struggle is not taking place on a level field.