fact check or fun?

[zebra24.livejournal.com]

I went through so-called post-debate fact check at nytimes.com.
Obama-press is so funny.
Almost everything Romney said was in the list to check, however almost nothing from Obama's speech was there. Even more, if something said by Obama was wrongit wasn't stated even in first paragraph of explanation [even if checked].
If something was inaccurate on Romney side it was said directly and without necessary explanations. If Romney was accurate, it was usually a page-long explanation why Obama is still better.

Most offensive to my mind was a "NYT Graphics" about "Obama is on track for doubling exports" which was once claimed by Obama as a target.
Graph not even adjusted for inflation and such graph shouldn't be used for a fact check at all. Even though they used plain extrapolation instead of projected numbers.
Export dropped in 2009 during Obama's presidential and still isn't counted as his fault. But why his faulty projection to "double export" isn't counted as a lie since started from the lowest point under Obama, not from year before he came?
nytimes.com should have started to count from solid 2008 number not from faulty 2009 number.
But even then inflated picture shows that Obama is behind trend, still header says "on track". Simple draw line from any year before 2009 to 2011 number no way you will be "on track", only way to say he is on track is to draw line from 2009 number to 2011 which is ridiculous due to low recovery speed. Moreover imports under Obama is also increased, sums up to trade deficit every year during his term and in nearest future.
If he wanted to have jobs in USA why import risen so much?

Nobody even asked Obama, where is his budget deficit reduction plan when "1 dollar of tax increase accounted for 2.5$ of spending decrease".

Nobody questioned Obama's faulty promise to cut budget deficit by 5.4 trillions during 10 years!!!!
Deficit cuts he mention multiple times is for duration of 10(!) years, how he can promise something that will be 6 after his last term ends?
Is he going to be a president of USA for another 10 years? Do fact check: what constitution says about it?
Let me ask you - what will be debt increase during those 10 years?
And what will be principal and interest payments in 2022 budget?

That's very impressive that Obama isn't even responsible for 2009 budget deficit (BTW he voted for it), but is projecting something till 2022.
But even then why not to mention that any given two years deficit under Obama will be worse than two years deficit under Bush? Total debt increase under Obama and last year of Bush is astonishing! Why not to mention that in fact-check?

Why not to mention that due to Obama's policy deficit risen 3 times from if count 2008 and about 8 times from from 2007?? And he is telling us about deficit reduction?
5.4 trillion over 10 years in deficit reduction won't help him to get even 2008 result by 2022, not even close to balance budget.


Is that so called "fact check" and neutral media??

Comments

[papasha-mueller.livejournal.com]

And it takes another electoral round to notice that. Funny, isn't it?

[rowsdowerisms.livejournal.com]

Is there an actual argument here? You seem to be saying that Obama wasn't fact-checked as much as Romney, therefor Obama is as much of a liar as Romney. Wanna try again?
Also your complaint of 10 year projections should be addressed to the CBO. Who do I file complaints with in Russia?

[notmrgarrison.livejournal.com]

It seems more an attack on the NYtimes.

NYTimes fact checkers. What next, Rush Limbaugh doing fact check?

[rowsdowerisms.livejournal.com]

Except his claims of "facts that must be checked" aren't a problem for Obama.

Rush Limbaugh continually checks facts. It is indeed a different method than analysis.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2251393/al_franken_where_rush_limbaughs_facts_come_from/

[notmrgarrison.livejournal.com]

Perhaps they're all trying to give fact-checking a bad name.

[rowsdowerisms.livejournal.com]

Perhaps the NYT and Rush Limbaugh are of two incommensurable traditions.

[marina-herriott.livejournal.com]

I never thought that the Americans will begin to point to Russia as arguments.
It is in the traditional style of Russian propaganda that not only point to America, but consider America as the sourse all Russian troubles.
For me this is an indication that the American democrats, without noticing it, operate same way like the pro-Putin propaganda.
Perhaps Obama has Russian advisers as he learned to from Putin to shift its responsibility: 90% of the Deficit is Somebody Else's Fault... (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444358804578016270614705726.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop)
Obama's administration urges contractors not to warn of layoffs, despite defense cuts (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/29/admin-to-pay-legal-fees-for-contractors-that-dont-issue-sequestration-warnings/) - this is the incitement to break the law!

[rowsdowerisms.livejournal.com]

What are you talking about? Why was this commented at me?

[marina-herriott.livejournal.com]

You said: Is there an actual argument here? You seem to be saying that Obama wasn't fact-checked as much as Romney, therefor Obama is as much of a liar as Romney. Wanna try again? Also your complaint of 10 year projections should be addressed to the CBO. Who do I file complaints with in Russia?

My answer above.

[rowsdowerisms.livejournal.com]

Your answer in no way bears any relation to what I said.

[dwer.livejournal.com]

Obama's administration urges contractors not to warn of layoffs, despite defense cuts - this is the incitement to break the law!

What law?

[marina-herriott.livejournal.com]

See the link

[telemann.livejournal.com]

It's not 60 days till January 2, so there's been no incitement to "break the law."

[fizzyland.livejournal.com]

Oh look, it's our pro-Romney bloc of Russians. It appears your post was lifted in part or whole from somewhere else. Your "facts" seem to consist of leading questions about things not in the debate last night.

[marina-herriott.livejournal.com]

/pro-Romney bloc of Russians/
After Putin's regime will fall I hope the Russia will go the right capitalist way to the prosper. I'm anxious for America.

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

Given Russia's success with emulating economic ideologies 'properly', the Russian version of capitalism would be a grotesque parody of the Belgian Congo spliced in with the Domination of Draka. I think Russia is better off pursuing rational policies that favor Russia, not woodenly imposing economic ideologies BECAUSE.

[fizzyland.livejournal.com]

We all have cause to be anxious, sadly.

[devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com]

I like FoxNews method of fact checking. If it's something they doubt, they just suggest a conspiracy; it saves time.

[telemann.livejournal.com]

Haha.

Quote of the day!

[htpcl.livejournal.com]

Why not.

[telemann.livejournal.com]

YAY! :-)

[rimpala.livejournal.com]

It's very efficient you almost have to respect them.

Eh...uh...nah we don't.

[idemandjustice.livejournal.com]

Wow, there are a lot of exclamation points in here. Terry Pratchett had something to say about that.

[nairiporter.livejournal.com]

"What gets me is the way that in opera everybody takes such a long!!!!!......time!!!!! to!!!!!...... argh...argh...argh..."

[telemann.livejournal.com]

Hehe. er should I say..

Hehe!!!!!!!!!!!