[identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
Hundreds of years before the legendary mission of Jesus, a student of the Pythagorean tradition published an essay on the politics of his time. He described a shadow world of deception and intellectual bondage. Anyone who had escaped from the cavernous enclave to return with a description of the real world would be treated like a lunatic. Their description of reality would not be recognized as such. Instead, they would be considered quite batty.

The situation has changed very little since that time. Despite all of the modern facilities that exist for seeking understanding, few have the courage to break out of the Cave and even fewer have the courage to attempt to liberate those trapped in thrall to the shadowcraft of our times. Some even believe they have escaped into the light of reality when they are merely captive to a greater level of sophistication. Rather than escaping from darkness, they have merely been seduced by a different set of delusions.

Millions of people around the planet worship the Roman Pontiff as if he were the absolute bridge to eternity. When the Roman despot commands them to put aside modern methods of self-control, they dutifully kowtow to his demands. Some even go so far as to try to keep such devices out of the hands of people of other persuasions. The so-called representative of Jesus uses teen love speak to defraud people of their rights and treat them worse than dirt.

When millions of people mistake the Roman Pontiff for a vicar of a Jewish prophet, it is called religion. If the Roman Pontiff actually believed it himself, psychosis would be the best term. The office of Pontifex Maximus existed before the birth of either Jesus or his left hand lieutenant, Peter. It is an office that tied Roman monarchs to the domain of the dead. Would an authoritarian jerk sitting in an ornate palace in the middle of Rome associate himself and his position more with a Roman monarch or with a wandering healer in the Levant? The former makes more sense. It would be the reasonable conclusion to draw.

With millions of culty devotees, it would be dangerous to point out the nakedness of papal aggression. Anyone who does so is asking for trouble. One would have to be insane to speak truth to such power. It is better to keep it a secret, flying under the radar to stay safe.

To which popular delusion do you ascribe and why?

BTW, it is fascinating to watch the power struggle between China and Rome over the ordination of bishops. After his ordination as a state-approved bishop, Rome automatically excommunicated Joseph Yue Fusheng. After a Rome-approved ordination, Thaddeus Ma Daquin appears to have been placed under house arrest by the Chinese government.

Links: Plato's allegory of the Cave. Judith Hallett on the meaning of the title of Pontifex Maximus Officially ordained Catholic bishop in Harbin, China vs. a Shangai bishop, approved by Rome.

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Date: 10/7/12 15:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com
Hundreds of years before the legendary mission of Jesus, a student of the Pythagorean tradition published an essay on the politics of his time. He described a shadow world of deception and intellectual bondage.

Plato. His name was Plato. This does not to be wrapped in pseudo mystery.

With millions of culty devotees, it would be dangerous to point out the nakedness of papal aggression. Anyone who does so is asking for trouble. One would have to be insane to speak truth to such power. It is better to keep it a secret, flying under the radar to stay safe.



You cannot possibly be saying that there is nobody who dares to criticize the Roman Catholic Church.
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Date: 10/7/12 21:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
She must have missed the posts where I was being the penis in the lords bunghole...

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Date: 10/7/12 16:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerseycajun.livejournal.com
With millions of culty devotees...
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Hey, culty devotee here, and may I say you really have me and my family pegged. Why, I can't even recall a weekend that's gone by where we didn't go out on a ritual witch-hunt for agnostics, secular humanists and pagans, offering human sacrifice to Pope Benedict. Roaming the streets, the wind in our hair as we patrol for cars sporting tell-tale bumper-stickers that mock us, fish with "Darwin" inscribed in them, etc. Good times.

In all seriousness though, if that's possible given the condescending tonal high-bar you set (if its all the same, what delusions do you ascribe to?), you've got more to fear from getting a nasty staph infection from the next paper-cut you get than from your average Roman Catholic.

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Date: 10/7/12 16:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com
You know damned well the Last Supper was really like this:

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Date: 10/7/12 18:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paedraggaidin.livejournal.com
Also, Protestant babies are teh tasteez. Mmmmm. Specially Baptists. They plump 'em up with those weekly church casseroles and man alive, are they some fiiiiiiiine eatins.

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Date: 10/7/12 17:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
Lots of assertions, little evidence. Lots of stream of consciousness, little substance.
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Date: 10/7/12 17:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chron-job.livejournal.com
> few have the courage to break out of the Cave

Breaking out of the Cave isn't a matter of courage. Anyone who thinks Courage gets them out of the cave, is just in a different cave.

> Some even believe they have escaped into the light of reality when they are merely captive to a greater level of sophistication.

Exactly, so how can one tell how deep in the cave they are, when they don't know how high the cave mouth extends?

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Date: 10/7/12 18:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
To which popular delusion do you ascribe and why?

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Because it's saner then anything Abraham cooked up, I don't mind being wrong, and I like Coil :p

Not to mention that it could mean Smile Dog could be real, which makes it worth it.
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Date: 10/7/12 19:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chron-job.livejournal.com
All I can think of when I see that symbol is "Blood and Souls for my Lord Arioch!"

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Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!

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Date: 10/7/12 21:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
You are so fucking awesome!

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Date: 10/7/12 19:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com
To which popular delusion do you ascribe and why?

I ascribe to The Church of Mind My Own Business, because everyone else's faith (or lack of it) is their own business.

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Date: 10/7/12 20:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
God dammit, I can't read that without hearing Boss Hog's voice...

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Date: 10/7/12 20:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oportet.livejournal.com
Thaddeus Ma Daquin appears to have been placed under house arrest by the Chinese government.

I read the article - and it appears house arrest is the absolute best-case scenario for what may have happened to ol' Thad.

Sounds to me like Chinese Pope is more dangerous than the Pope.

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Date: 10/7/12 21:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Sometimes, the assholes do get out of hand, pick a religious framework, fuck shit up, and they simply must be resisted. I have been very guilty of painting with far too wide a brush on this issue, so I hesitate to applaud the idea too loudly...but it does happen.

The latest horrific example?

Latter Day Saints torture and kill a kitten. I cannot make this shit up.



Mormons encase kitten in concrete. (http://www.thetwentyfirstfloor.com/?p=4329)

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Date: 10/7/12 23:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayjayuu.livejournal.com
To which popular delusion do you ascribe and why?

I ascribe to the belief that people on the internet are mostly sane. I'm not exactly sure why.

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Date: 11/7/12 01:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
Maybe tubgirl was therapeutic, releasing millennia of pent up... something.

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Date: 11/7/12 00:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
What is this supposed to be?

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Date: 11/7/12 01:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikeyxw.livejournal.com
It is a post from Sophia with a religion tag, it is supposed to be a container for macros.

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Date: 11/7/12 06:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
To which popular delusion do you ascribe and why?

That given enough reason and evidence that people will change their mind.

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Date: 11/7/12 20:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
Millions of people around the planet worship the Roman Pontiff as if he were the absolute bridge to eternity.

No, they don't.

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