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Good business is where you find it. - Dick Jones, OCP division president

Old Mitt appears to be continuing to haunt New Mitt with new information about Bain Capital's investment in a company called Stericycle, long hated by anti-abortion activists because the company's clients include abortion clinics - which means that it disposes of aborted fetuses.

Bain Capital, the private equity firm Romney founded, invested $75 million in Stericycle in 1999, the Huffington Post reported. Stericycle later became a leader in the medical waste industry. But after the news broke, Bain Capital defended Romney, who publicly has pro-life views. Bain said that Romney left the firm in 1999, before the Stericycle deal took place. Bain representatives said that Romney had nothing to do with the Stericycle deal. 

Documents filed by Bain and Stericycle with the Securities and Exchange Commission show that Romney was "an active participant" in the deal, Mother Jones reported today. The documents obtained by Mother Jones show that Romney had signed some of the paperwork involved and had voting power over the Stericycle stock. 

So, Romney supporters, does this cause you any moral conflict that your candidate was profiting off of the Abortion Industry? Or is this another case like outsourcing American jobs to low-wage countries such as China, even though Romney has promised to get tough on outsourcing if he is elected president?

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Date: 2/7/12 23:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unnamed525.livejournal.com
The only true happiness.

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Date: 2/7/12 23:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
Does this turn Romney into Obama?

Unless that answer is yes, it's unlikely to have any actual impact.

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Date: 3/7/12 00:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soliloquy76.livejournal.com
Did Obama invest in a company that disposed of aborted fetuses? :P

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Date: 3/7/12 00:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
When you consider Romney's claim to moderation is the same idea the GOP now considers to be offering dripping hearts to the Dark Gods, actually, Obama and Romney *are* indistinguishable from a conservative POV, just as Obama and Bush weren't all that different in 2012. Now that I've answered your question, is there anything else you'd like to know?

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Date: 3/7/12 01:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] awdrey-gore.livejournal.com
What on earth does this even mean, Jeff? That you vote solely on partisan lines regardless of any other consideration? That you hate Obama so much that Romney can do anything in the pursuit of money, even things antithetical to his moral stance, that you will vote for him just because he isn't Obama?

Your stance here baffles me.

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Date: 3/7/12 01:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
that's not the litmus test, and I think you know that.

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Date: 3/7/12 02:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chessdev.livejournal.com
Yeah, the right-to-life crowd will LOVE he made millions from, and put money INTO the abortion industry.

And as an active investor -- not some remotely distant line on an accounting chart...

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Date: 3/7/12 04:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
Not everyone has as solid a vote as you do, man. A lot of people are weighing their options with each passing month. I think this speculated "anyone but Obama" crowd is the same myth as the "anyone but Bush" crowd in 2004.

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Date: 3/7/12 00:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Looking for consistency in Tea Party support of Romney when he originated most of the ideas they consider equivalent to invoking the Dark Gods is a lost cause.

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Date: 3/7/12 00:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheezyfish.livejournal.com
The Abortion industry? Is it really appropriate to call a medical waste company as profiting off of the "abortion industry" when it is most likely an incredibly small percentage of their business?

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Date: 3/7/12 00:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheezyfish.livejournal.com
http://www.stericycle.com/ (http://www.stericycle.com/) I'm glad I checked out the home page. Saw the "disposing of unborn babies since 1973" and knew I was wrong.

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Date: 3/7/12 01:26 (UTC)
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Is it really appropriate to call a medical waste company as profiting off of the "abortion industry" when it is most likely an incredibly small percentage of their business?

Well, gee, let's see here...Is it a smaller percentage than planned parenthood abortions?

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Date: 3/7/12 00:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
I don't see how disposing of a dead baby is significantly different than disposing of any other kind of corpse. This isn't anything like being part of killing the fetus, so there's no moral quandary apparent here.

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Date: 3/7/12 00:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheezyfish.livejournal.com
Well, we don't "dispose" of a corpse. Unless they are just parts of men in the military, then we just bury them in a landfill. However, it is a little like saying funeral homes profit off of gang-violence, so we should all boycott them. It is just complete ridiculousness.

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Date: 3/7/12 01:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] awdrey-gore.livejournal.com
We don't dispose of corpses, Gunny. We bury them. Aborted feti are not considered corpses until the unborn are accorded legal status as human beings. Didactic possibly but a distinction that makes discussing corpses and aborted feti specious.

Interestingly, morals plays into this. People who are opposed to war don't invest in companies that make materials for the military. People who are opposed to abortion don't invest companies that dispose of aborted feti. Unless, of course, they are so craven that their love of money trumps their morality, a common problem and hardly unique to Romney. I just think it's best to be clear about it. If the man says, "My money is more important than my beliefs about abortion," I could almost respect him.

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Date: 3/7/12 15:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
It is difficult to "kill" a fetus given its inability to exist apart from its host.

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Date: 3/7/12 02:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikeyxw.livejournal.com
No moral conflict, but I'm pro-choice.

Even among the pro-life republicans, I don't think too many will change their votes to Obama because of this. I also don't expect this changes the mind of any pro-choice voters who use this as a litmus test either. I don't see NARL rethinking their support for Obama.

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Date: 3/7/12 02:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
no one's expecting the fundamentalist right to change their vote to Obama. But you have to concede that these sorts of things might very well push them to not vote at all.

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Date: 3/7/12 03:31 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
Take it what you will I guess. I know I don't have any moral conflicts, medical waste has to be disposed in a way that doesn't endanger others obviously. One of the reasons we bury the dead is that back in the stone age we learned that corpses kind of spread disease.
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Date: 3/7/12 12:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Actually it used to be in a number of cultures and still is in quite a few of them that corpses were either allowed to be picked clean by exposure or burned on funeral pyres. The Ancient Romans in particular outlawed inhumation as barbarism.

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Date: 3/7/12 04:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
I don't see the outrage. You gotta do something about all those dead babies! Romney just ensured that they were buried with sufficient pieces of eight and herbs for their journey into the other world. That's what Mormonism does, right?
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Date: 3/7/12 15:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
When Romney says that he will get tough on outsourcing, he means that he will ask Congress for special tax breaks to businesses that have successfully contracted with overseas suppliers.

As for Stericycle, weren't they the folks who provided the haters with aborted fetus photos? I remember telling a wielder of one such photo that it was pornographic. The hater accused the health care provider of being the pornographer, rather than the person displaying the photo in public.

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Date: 4/7/12 04:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
Of course, when Romney says that he will get tough on something.

I have to wonder if he'll just surrender to it later.

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