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talkpoliticsWell, it seems the Klan is still alive and well in North Georgia.
FOUR! YES THERE ARE FOUR OF US!
Not only do we have a local chapter in my 'residential town' of Ellijay, but we have a few Saltines™ of the Earth a few counties over in Union County.
Seems a few good crackerfolk up in Union want to do their civic part and help clean a stretch of road. Just like Kwanis, Masons, churches, boy scout groups and other intolerant private organizations.
Only, well like GEE they are the KKK, with a History of Bigotry, intolerance, just like the Baptists, only with pointy caps. So the State says "no, it's not safe for you racists to be on the side of a road doing cleanup. What if the Negros find out? Next thing ya know, Jesse GodDamn Jackson will be all up in heah!"
So, of course, the Klan does the predictable thing (given this is all a PR campagne anyway). They ask the ACLU to intervene.
And, of course, the ACLU is more than willing to support the Klan's First Amendment right.
The Georgia branch of the ACLU said the DOT's denial appears to violate the KKK's First Amendment right to free speech. The group’s executive director Debbie Seagraves told Davis a lawsuit against the state is one option.
“I don’t want to tell you we are going to sue the state. The ACLU practice and policy is to always try a remedy short of litigation, but were not afraid to do that if that’s what’s necessary,” she said.
The ACLU said it doesn’t matter that the Klan's message, white supremacy, may be offensive.
“No question their message is offensive and hurtful, but our constitution allows offensive speech. In fact, the First Amendment is only needed for offensive speech, only for unpopular speech. That’s its purpose,” Seagraves said.
Personally, I hope they prevail. I can't wait to get up there and steal a sign for my business. Of course, I'll compensate the appropriate government sign authority.
Do you support the Klu Klux Klan's right to be a part of a public program that other intolerable organizations have no issue with participating? After all, The Georgia Protestant Churches and the Klan all have a major thing in common: :they worship and claim law and doctrine is based on the Abrahamic God.
If you do not support the Klan, don't you agree that 'intolerance' is subjective, therefore we are all guilty of intolerance to some degree?
FOUR! YES THERE ARE FOUR OF US!
Not only do we have a local chapter in my 'residential town' of Ellijay, but we have a few Saltines™ of the Earth a few counties over in Union County.
Seems a few good crackerfolk up in Union want to do their civic part and help clean a stretch of road. Just like Kwanis, Masons, churches, boy scout groups and other intolerant private organizations.
Only, well like GEE they are the KKK, with a History of Bigotry, intolerance, just like the Baptists, only with pointy caps. So the State says "no, it's not safe for you racists to be on the side of a road doing cleanup. What if the Negros find out? Next thing ya know, Jesse GodDamn Jackson will be all up in heah!"
So, of course, the Klan does the predictable thing (given this is all a PR campagne anyway). They ask the ACLU to intervene.
And, of course, the ACLU is more than willing to support the Klan's First Amendment right.
The Georgia branch of the ACLU said the DOT's denial appears to violate the KKK's First Amendment right to free speech. The group’s executive director Debbie Seagraves told Davis a lawsuit against the state is one option.
“I don’t want to tell you we are going to sue the state. The ACLU practice and policy is to always try a remedy short of litigation, but were not afraid to do that if that’s what’s necessary,” she said.
The ACLU said it doesn’t matter that the Klan's message, white supremacy, may be offensive.
“No question their message is offensive and hurtful, but our constitution allows offensive speech. In fact, the First Amendment is only needed for offensive speech, only for unpopular speech. That’s its purpose,” Seagraves said.
Personally, I hope they prevail. I can't wait to get up there and steal a sign for my business. Of course, I'll compensate the appropriate government sign authority.
Do you support the Klu Klux Klan's right to be a part of a public program that other intolerable organizations have no issue with participating? After all, The Georgia Protestant Churches and the Klan all have a major thing in common: :they worship and claim law and doctrine is based on the Abrahamic God.
If you do not support the Klan, don't you agree that 'intolerance' is subjective, therefore we are all guilty of intolerance to some degree?
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Date: 14/6/12 19:02 (UTC)wait..
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Date: 14/6/12 19:50 (UTC)Once they do, we'll likely be in trouble.
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Date: 14/6/12 20:03 (UTC)Let them clean, and let them be targets for anyone who might be driving along.
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Date: 14/6/12 20:44 (UTC)Also, someone should videotape it...
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Date: 14/6/12 23:06 (UTC)It's the sign that is the issue, not that they want to pick up trash. The Klan wants their name on the sign, and the state does not.
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Date: 15/6/12 00:03 (UTC)And yes, intolerance is subjective and often hypocritical.
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Date: 15/6/12 01:11 (UTC)Also, send pics when you get your sign.
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Date: 15/6/12 01:53 (UTC)Advertising cuts both ways.
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Date: 15/6/12 01:55 (UTC)Do I "hope" the KKK prevails? Only insofar as their failure to do so would represent manifest disregard for the law, sure.
Do I think the ACLU should view itself as bound to defend them? No. There's no reason why the ACLU couldn't decide that there are some forms of speech that are, despite their constitutionally protected status, not worth their time.
Why do people seem to think our free speech norms require these solemn platitudes about "dying for your right to say" whatever dumb-shit thing you want to say? They don't. Why do we have to pretend that an entirely content-independent free speech norm is the only way to provide protection for "good" free speech, even if it means that "good" free speech will constantly have to compete with less worthy, "bad" free speech? It doesn't.
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Date: 15/6/12 02:53 (UTC)And I know there are more than a few people supporting state's rights over federal law.
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Date: 15/6/12 04:22 (UTC)OH HAI THERE!
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