To Thwart a Predator
20/5/12 09:44Anyone who ever watched Chris Hansen's heavily hyped Dateline NBC show To Catch a Predator is familiar with the profile of the modal sexual predator on the internet. In many respects, the internet has greatly enabled a category of abuser who had limited capabilities before the technology. While criminal statistics make it very clear that those who are most likely to abuse children sexually are those familiar to them and entrusted with their care -- parents, relatives, teachers, clergy, etc -- the classic episode of "stranger danger" becomes much more possible with the invention and dissemination of remote communication and community tools like the net. Simply put, before the internet, sexual predators who victimized strangers or bare acquaintences had to do their work at least partially in the open, risking direct observation of their activities by other adults.
To clarify this problem, I am going to use a composite predator based upon publically available court documents. Let's call him...."Phil".
In most respects, Phil fits the stereotypical internet sexual predator portrayed in Hansen's series of reports. The word "predator" in its wild and awe inspiring form does not apply:

Phil is better symbolized by THIS type of natural predator:

Grotesque, bottom feeding, using trickery and mimicry to lure in victims.
Phil's pattern is as follows: Using earlier iterations of the net, Phil infiltrated chat spaces that had been created for survivors of sexual abuse. In those spaces, he identified the most isolated and vulnerable members of the community and tried his best to earn their trust, even to the point of offering them the use of anonymous servers for posting that resulted in his gaining even more access and information about his intended victims.
Phil's machinations would lead eventually to his offering to help the invariably adolescent women in the real world, encouraging them to travel to him with offers of "sanctuary" from their abuse -- where he would try to seduce or force sexual contact with them.
Phil's activities were relatively well-shielded in the spaces where he operated because the chat spaces were mainly venues with which he could initiate contact -- the most manipulative behavior happened outside of the view of most members. Phil was eventually caught luring a teen ager across state lines FOR A SECOND TIME and was sentenced to a very short prison term. Upon release, he resumed his online activities and was caught again and sentenced to a much longer term. Upon release from that prison term, we can only assume that he will head directly back to the internet.
And here is the rub: Predators like Phil do not stop. Ever. When pedophiles operate in meat space to lure prepubescent children into sexual assault and rape, conditions of their release restrict their activities and contact with children. For example, it would not be uncommon for a child rapist to be forbidden to be within a 1000 feet a school or playground, even if that meant that he could not shop at a wide variety of stores that are adjacent to those spaces. Electronic monitoring makes it possible to know when they violate those conditions.
Phil is not a pedophile, per se. His victim patterns tilt towards Ephebophilia and Hebephilia with a specialization towards seeking out the emotionally vulnerable in those populations. His criminal behavior involves custodial interference of his victims as well as sexual assault and rape. His reasons for this are, obviously, open for debate. As Chris Hansen's show demonstrates, these serial sexual pradtors are not typically suave, sophisticated or, perhaps even, capable of healthy romantic relationships with women of their own age and circumstances. They seek out younger, easy to manipulate victims in many respects because it is the only way that they can feel powerful, mature and capable. And they keep doing it.
So my question is about how to THWART the Phil's of the internet because it seems impossible to do so while he has ACCESS to the internet. Courts routinely impose restrictions on internet activities for people paroled or released from incarceration for such crimes, but we all know that hacking and cracking remain several steps ahead of authorities so giving a predator ANY access to the internet is an invitation to thwart restrictions from chat, blogging or social media sites -- even though we KNOW that people like Phil are enabled far beyond their natural ability to harm by access.
Can we develop better ways to monitor, restrict and thwart such predators? Can we attach devices to their computers that will short out their motherboards when they go from shopping for Hello Kitty gear on Amazon to Facebook? I'd personally favor attaching an electroshock device to their genitals, but I'm mean.
Alternately, we could realize and acknowledge the actual threat these people represent, release half a million petty drug possession offenders from jail and keep Phil in prison for 25 to life.
To clarify this problem, I am going to use a composite predator based upon publically available court documents. Let's call him...."Phil".
In most respects, Phil fits the stereotypical internet sexual predator portrayed in Hansen's series of reports. The word "predator" in its wild and awe inspiring form does not apply:

Phil is better symbolized by THIS type of natural predator:

Grotesque, bottom feeding, using trickery and mimicry to lure in victims.
Phil's pattern is as follows: Using earlier iterations of the net, Phil infiltrated chat spaces that had been created for survivors of sexual abuse. In those spaces, he identified the most isolated and vulnerable members of the community and tried his best to earn their trust, even to the point of offering them the use of anonymous servers for posting that resulted in his gaining even more access and information about his intended victims.
Phil's machinations would lead eventually to his offering to help the invariably adolescent women in the real world, encouraging them to travel to him with offers of "sanctuary" from their abuse -- where he would try to seduce or force sexual contact with them.
Phil's activities were relatively well-shielded in the spaces where he operated because the chat spaces were mainly venues with which he could initiate contact -- the most manipulative behavior happened outside of the view of most members. Phil was eventually caught luring a teen ager across state lines FOR A SECOND TIME and was sentenced to a very short prison term. Upon release, he resumed his online activities and was caught again and sentenced to a much longer term. Upon release from that prison term, we can only assume that he will head directly back to the internet.
And here is the rub: Predators like Phil do not stop. Ever. When pedophiles operate in meat space to lure prepubescent children into sexual assault and rape, conditions of their release restrict their activities and contact with children. For example, it would not be uncommon for a child rapist to be forbidden to be within a 1000 feet a school or playground, even if that meant that he could not shop at a wide variety of stores that are adjacent to those spaces. Electronic monitoring makes it possible to know when they violate those conditions.
Phil is not a pedophile, per se. His victim patterns tilt towards Ephebophilia and Hebephilia with a specialization towards seeking out the emotionally vulnerable in those populations. His criminal behavior involves custodial interference of his victims as well as sexual assault and rape. His reasons for this are, obviously, open for debate. As Chris Hansen's show demonstrates, these serial sexual pradtors are not typically suave, sophisticated or, perhaps even, capable of healthy romantic relationships with women of their own age and circumstances. They seek out younger, easy to manipulate victims in many respects because it is the only way that they can feel powerful, mature and capable. And they keep doing it.
So my question is about how to THWART the Phil's of the internet because it seems impossible to do so while he has ACCESS to the internet. Courts routinely impose restrictions on internet activities for people paroled or released from incarceration for such crimes, but we all know that hacking and cracking remain several steps ahead of authorities so giving a predator ANY access to the internet is an invitation to thwart restrictions from chat, blogging or social media sites -- even though we KNOW that people like Phil are enabled far beyond their natural ability to harm by access.
Can we develop better ways to monitor, restrict and thwart such predators? Can we attach devices to their computers that will short out their motherboards when they go from shopping for Hello Kitty gear on Amazon to Facebook? I'd personally favor attaching an electroshock device to their genitals, but I'm mean.
Alternately, we could realize and acknowledge the actual threat these people represent, release half a million petty drug possession offenders from jail and keep Phil in prison for 25 to life.
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Date: 20/5/12 14:09 (UTC)But we could be more vigilant and as soon as we recognise sexual predators, to expose them, provide maximum pushback, hand them over to the authorities along with all the evidence we have at our disposal, and make sure justice does its job properly. Society could be more proactive about this, that's for sure. Because this is potentially one of the most serious offenses with a long-term effect on the victims.
Anyone who has a child would understand what I am talking about.
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Date: 20/5/12 14:56 (UTC)Would you rather let them out, permanently mess up people's lives, and send them back to a terrible life in prison over and over? I don't want to permanently imprison them, but they're never going to function harmlessly in society.
Think about it this way, someone murders a cop, they get sent to jail for like elebenty lifetimes. Someone commits murder they're often in for life. I don't think I'm being harsh if a person who has a proven instinct towards sexual predatory behavior has to meet some sort of middle ground between freedom and supervision.
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Date: 20/5/12 14:30 (UTC)I must be just as mean as you are. :)
I wish we could give them a sub-dermal chip that interferes with any attempt to access the Internet from any computer they try to use. Is such a thing even possible?
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Date: 20/5/12 15:09 (UTC)I am ready to spend the rest of my life behind bars because of this, and I have never been more serious.
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Date: 20/5/12 16:14 (UTC)On one hand I can totally understand protecting our children from harm, but in the wake of the pedo-hunt craze not too long ago I wonder if anyone else ever felt like there was people out there ready to point that accusing finger at you? Particularly, being a gay male usually involves running into people that still believe that all homosexuals are child predators. It's always such a hard thing to deal with when you run into someone that, if they ever found out you were gay, would treat you like this.
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Date: 20/5/12 16:48 (UTC)making yourself important to them, even in a passive sense, in order to further that kind of certain agenda. Let me just state that clearly.
But I also think that there *must* be a place in society for people who have committed horrible acts. Or gotten sentenced for committing them and taken their punishment.
If we exclude and continue to punish, we, as citizens in a democratic society may do the wrong thing, or we may do the right thing in the wrong way. This is why we have the law, because
the law should be bigger than our feelings. (I say should, since the law has several shortcomings when interpreted sometimes)
There is no proof that rehabilitation doesn't work, first of all. In some cases there are strong indications that it does. *But*, the offender must be willing.
There is also the slim risk/chance that the offender is innocent. Our stance against child abusers today is very firm, and it's a fantastically good thing, but if it gets too emotionally driven,
it can turn into witch hunts easily. Back in the real witch hunting times, children were often put forward as witnesses, and they lied to put the women on the pyre, because it got them importance and a spotlight, in
a setting where they sorely lacked that otherwise. Children are not adults and don't have our emotional filters, and especially the already damaged ones, do lie.
For *all* our sakes, it is important to keep a clear head in cases like abuse of all kinds. t_p is a good analogy for society in some cases, and in our type of society, there is a certain vigilance already.
This could and should be put to use to protect those that need it, but not until there are signs of wrongdoing.
As for your more serious questions, which I find interesting and thoughtworthy. I think it's long past the time where people realize that internet isn't this big old happy free zone that is safe. Internet crimes happen every day,
and as you've pointed out, some crimes start to emerge on the net, which only existed out in real life before. I do think that denied access to certain specific sites isn't a bad idea at all, and I also think that many types of sites
perhaps need to realize that moderating, even if mostly silent and watching is needed, because shit really *does* happen.
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Date: 20/5/12 17:06 (UTC)But unless the Phils are under thorough supervision and therapy, they will victimize again. Outside of actual pedophilia, we still have the matter of Phil's social inability to interact with equals and his need for power.
I want safeguards against abuse of Phil's rights. But I want safeguards for society and its children here as well. The net makes predators like this far more enabled. We need tools to address that.
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Date: 21/5/12 00:40 (UTC)Hopefully the mob doesn't attack it.
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Date: 20/5/12 18:52 (UTC)I'd certainly be in favor of the former and we can discuss the numbers and gradation of the latter.
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Date: 21/5/12 05:17 (UTC)I also think that some serious mental health treatment would lead to a better chance of rehabilitation.
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Date: 21/5/12 01:02 (UTC)I only ask this, because one of my favorite authors killed his wife in a horrible display of childishness. I would absolutely have advocated for perpetual incarceration or, had he done that to a close relative, considered murder as revenge and protection for others.
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Date: 21/5/12 08:11 (UTC)Most pedophiles who abuse a family member don't do so again (under 10%). Most pedophiles are people who abuse family members. Ergo, most pedophiles don't reoffend. The numbers drop even more if you add treatment into the equation.
I'm not saying they're not bad people, just that most people in this post have their facts wrong.
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Date: 21/5/12 12:08 (UTC)I am all for adding careful therapeutic work for convicted sex offenders but an offender who is convicted and then goes right back to the activities that got him convicted originally, I want him gone for a very, very long time and if he ever gets out I want his access to his main tool for hunting severely restricted.
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