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Film maker Alexandra Pelosi (she is Nancy Pelosi's daughter) produced this short for Bill Maher's HBO program Real Time with Bill Maher. Ms. Pelosi takes a closer look at the new media's claims that there was an impending race riot in Sanford Florida, with organized rallies by both the New Black Panther Party and Neo-Nazis, with incitements for violence. This post is only concerned with this as the topic; not in retrying the case again.





While I knew the New Black Panthers were a pretty small group despite the fixation of right wing media, but I didn't know they were this small; and I sort of laughed at the Neo-Nazi and felt embarrassed for him (the Nazi salute in front of his trailer park home). And while certainly bad news and potentially bad news draws more ratings etc, the protests that did occur in Sanford were peaceful; and there certainly weren't 'race riots.' Some have seen the Trayvon Martin shooting as a painful reminder how as a country we still have a lot of healing to do in regards to race, but seeing these extremists so isolate in Ms. Pelosi's film gives me a glimmer of hope: maybe we are a bit further along the road than we give ourselves credit for.

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Date: 25/4/12 19:16 (UTC)
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awesome

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Date: 25/4/12 19:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Yes. Its overblown. We shall see what happens. If martin is released without charges (not guilty), I doubt there will be riots looting and killing (attempted). But I did put $25 buck charity bet on it. I am an optimist.
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Date: 26/4/12 06:15 (UTC)
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Where do they make those bets? I'd like to participate.

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Date: 25/4/12 19:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
maybe we are a bit further along the road than we give ourselves credit for.

Glad to see you're finally coming around.
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Date: 25/4/12 20:23 (UTC)
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Yes we've come from treating blacks as property to denying them property rights to letting them accumulate 4% of our average net wealth. Progress!

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Date: 25/4/12 20:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
I've been bemused at how people at the one hand say "words can't create violence" and then turn right around and say words are about to produce a ticking time bomb here. They should pick one story and stick with it, that "We're always at war with Eastasia" business is not appropriate for a democracy.
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Date: 25/4/12 22:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com
Are you comparing someone saying that a politician is dangerous or malicious to saying someone ought to be killed?

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Date: 26/4/12 19:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
It's not the same people saying those two things. Those of us who say that words don't create violence say the same thing here. The words won't create the violence.

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Date: 25/4/12 21:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oportet.livejournal.com
I don't know, those 2 little 'white power' girls seem like they could throw down if it came to it.

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Date: 25/4/12 23:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8ao7ha3jR8

The video she took showed only a few members.

It'd be nice if the DoJ actually did something to punish them for putting out a bounty on someone's head and having its members threaten voters.

They go for groups which they think are dangerous like the Hutaree and leave these guys alone.

What gives? This group is larger and more vocal in their violent threats.

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Date: 26/4/12 01:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
So they go after movements that you admit make violent threats and you complain about it when the groups in question are white Christians?

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OK. This is interesting. Why is a violent threat less intimidating from a white Christian than a black man?

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Date: 26/4/12 15:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
I'm not a fan of that group, but going after them but not all the shit said by many tea party members would be a double standard.

Either we have free speech or we don't.

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Date: 26/4/12 15:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
The neo-Nazi has a goatee that reminds me of the standard issue Blackwater goatee:

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Did you notice the Masonic hat on one of the Black Panthers?

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Date: 27/4/12 06:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
Looks more like a Rammstein fan.

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Date: 26/4/12 16:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
I repeat, Sanford Florida is not violent a power keg.

Heck I can go there right now with a camera and show all of you how calm and quiet it is.

btw... what's with the "New Black Panthers! New Black Panthers! New Black Panthers!" splashed on the screen?
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Date: 27/4/12 14:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 404.livejournal.com
That was funny.

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