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talkpoliticsI was thinking about fundraising as a political candidate. Why do people give you money?
Big money comes with strings.
But why does joe-schmoe give money to a candidate/candidates campaign? How many millions of small campaign contributions have there been?
I haven't given any money to Obama. I don't plan to either.
But let me tell you what. If I thought, and had evidence to believe, that Santorum(may his campaign RIP) was going to win a general election against Obama--I'd do it. I'd pony up. I'd pay the piper. I'd pull out whatever I could--one dollar, five dollars, twenty. Whatever it took.
How bad would it have to be for you to personally donate money to a politicians campaign?
Assume the election is for the president.
Any hypothetical matchup you wish. Be real or silly. Just keep it real, y'all. PEACE
Big money comes with strings.
But why does joe-schmoe give money to a candidate/candidates campaign? How many millions of small campaign contributions have there been?
I haven't given any money to Obama. I don't plan to either.
But let me tell you what. If I thought, and had evidence to believe, that Santorum(may his campaign RIP) was going to win a general election against Obama--I'd do it. I'd pony up. I'd pay the piper. I'd pull out whatever I could--one dollar, five dollars, twenty. Whatever it took.
How bad would it have to be for you to personally donate money to a politicians campaign?
Assume the election is for the president.
Any hypothetical matchup you wish. Be real or silly. Just keep it real, y'all. PEACE
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Date: 19/4/12 04:51 (UTC)Because I like torment like that.
ETA: I stopped giving to Obama when he was a candidate, after he voted to extend funds to continue Adventure Afghanistan. I gave to Ron Paul, until he self-destructed at the end.
Right now, my money is going to be spent
buying off a state senator or 3for a PAC to get a little cannabis reform rolling.(no subject)
Date: 19/4/12 04:56 (UTC)welcome to the 21st century.
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Date: 19/4/12 05:21 (UTC)The alternative is too horrifying to be complacent.
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Date: 19/4/12 11:13 (UTC)Yeah we couldn't possibly live through 4 more years of that.
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Date: 19/4/12 14:47 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 19/4/12 16:54 (UTC)Ok so he is very slightly less opposed to the continued existence of gay people and slightly less opposed to abortion but that is about it.
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Date: 19/4/12 17:30 (UTC)That 'both sides are equally bad' myth is still exactly that.
Date: 20/4/12 01:32 (UTC)The alternative of another Bush-league social darwinist who freely admits he'll cut taxes for the wealthy and cut services for everyone else.
The alternative of another Bush-league theocrat, this time with 100% more magic underwear!
The alternative of a Bush-league hyper-interventionist. Like Iraq? You'll love Iran!
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Date: 19/4/12 05:27 (UTC)There is strength in numbers my friend.
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Date: 19/4/12 05:38 (UTC)Unfortunately, I cannot find a specific citation for what the limit on a "small individual contributions"
But this says 45%
That's a-lot.
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Date: 19/4/12 05:43 (UTC)http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/donordemCID.php?cycle=2012&id=N00009638
that page is much better. Obama got over 15 million from donors under $1000
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Date: 19/4/12 05:57 (UTC)total female: $29,816,794
total male: $37,624,451
total male+female=~ roughly 68 million
15 million of 68 million
over 20% of his money from individuals comes from from individuals giving 1000 and less
corporate money is another issue altogether; obviously
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Date: 19/4/12 06:16 (UTC)Even accepting your premise, the number of donors could go WAY up. By like, an order of magnitude. Easily.
That'd make a big difference.
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Date: 19/4/12 06:27 (UTC)Also, go back to the 2008 data. It's a lil diff. Here:
~345million total personal donors (link (http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/donordemCID.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638))
70mil from $1000 or less
150mil from $2300 or less!
that's 2008.
it's totally real and impactful.
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Date: 19/4/12 05:44 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 19/4/12 05:38 (UTC)So yeah. Romney could.
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Date: 19/4/12 14:13 (UTC)To put it another way, Obama or Romney getting $20m in small donations like you say? It's not going to be make or break for them. A million people giving 2 hours in GOTV volunteering the last weekend in October? That's a difference-maker.
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Date: 19/4/12 05:58 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 19/4/12 06:50 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 19/4/12 06:52 (UTC)I was pissed when he ended his campaign with a "profit".
I'm not in that position anymore, so I am only able to play with tiny amounts.
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Date: 19/4/12 09:54 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 19/4/12 10:04 (UTC)Cynicism is never enough.
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Date: 19/4/12 10:10 (UTC)And i fail a lot.
Between cynicism, realism, optimism, and getting stabby, optimism is pretty good.
Helps that the universe is a wonderful thing.
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Date: 19/4/12 10:16 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 19/4/12 06:56 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 19/4/12 07:00 (UTC)amen
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Date: 19/4/12 07:05 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 19/4/12 07:07 (UTC)although, he's far more to my liking in this comm than in any theological comm
which is weird; how he gets to where he gets to is mind-boggling to me. but unlike BDJ i like where he ends up.
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Date: 19/4/12 07:37 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 19/4/12 09:04 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 19/4/12 11:09 (UTC)Problem is that has only sort of happened once in my life, with Paul Tsongas who went and got cancer in the middle of the Democratic primary process so he never got far enough along for me to donate to. This year however does offer the prospect of a candidate who I could actually support assuming Gary Johnson wins the Libertarian party nomination. Sure he won't win but I'd do what I could to help him get his message out.
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Date: 19/4/12 19:56 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 19/4/12 14:12 (UTC)I'm more into giving time, not money. Credible campaigns aren't typically lacking for money, and my going door to door or banging out 100 phone calls is more valuable anyway.
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Date: 20/4/12 10:45 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 20/4/12 10:38 (UTC)I follow politics, I'm interested in politics (I'm here ain't I?), but the chances of me donating to a politician are about the same as me putting a sticker on my car for one.