A curious thought:
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talkpoliticsIn the last thirty years, the Presidential Administrations have been as follows: eight years of Ronald Reagan followed by four years of George Herbert Walker Bush, then eight years of Bill Clinton, followed by eight years of George W. Bush. Then the current Obama Administration. During this same timeframe, the GOP under Reagan kept control of the Senate until that nest of traitors paid the Iranians with guns to finance their nun-rapers, at which point the Senate and the House went to the Democrats until 1993, at which point with the one interregnum of Bush's first two years the GOP had control of both the house and the Senate. During this time 20 of the last 30 years saw the GOP holding the Oval Office. There was an entire timespan in Bush's Administration where the Republicans had control of the Presidency, the House, and the Senate all at once.
But during all this time the Republicans still relied on the hoary old myth of the stab in the back from the all-powerful conspiracy out to poison the precious bodily fluids of Americans. Even when they had command of all three nationally elected branches of government. If during this 30-year timespan when the GOP controlled both houses of Congress for a total of 10 years and the GOP for 20 of those 30 the GOP is still subject to this phantom liberal conspiracy, there are only three conclusions:
1) Liberals are too powerful to ever be overtaken, and thus need to be universally obeyed. Control of both houses of Congress and even both houses of Congress and the Presidency is not enough for the GOP, thus it can't accomplish anything with anything regardless. To waste votes on a party of feckless incompetents is a poor use of time better constructed to handling the factions within liberalism and the Democracy.
2) Republicans are too stupid to organize their way out of a wet paper bag at the federal level, thus leading to the same conclusion as statement the 1st.
3) Republican statements of cutting government are blatant lies and anyone who believes them is welcome to invest in my Saharan Cruise Line. Because a party with ample opportunity to accomplish its own goals and representing a peak of political success still needs to resort to conspiracy theories to unify a base composed of a hodge-podge of previously marginalized extremist movements. But again I have a great investment in a Saharan Cruise Line to offer........
But that's how I see it. How do you see it?
Edit-Altered a sentence to reflect factual accuracy. Apologies for any confusion.
But during all this time the Republicans still relied on the hoary old myth of the stab in the back from the all-powerful conspiracy out to poison the precious bodily fluids of Americans. Even when they had command of all three nationally elected branches of government. If during this 30-year timespan when the GOP controlled both houses of Congress for a total of 10 years and the GOP for 20 of those 30 the GOP is still subject to this phantom liberal conspiracy, there are only three conclusions:
1) Liberals are too powerful to ever be overtaken, and thus need to be universally obeyed. Control of both houses of Congress and even both houses of Congress and the Presidency is not enough for the GOP, thus it can't accomplish anything with anything regardless. To waste votes on a party of feckless incompetents is a poor use of time better constructed to handling the factions within liberalism and the Democracy.
2) Republicans are too stupid to organize their way out of a wet paper bag at the federal level, thus leading to the same conclusion as statement the 1st.
3) Republican statements of cutting government are blatant lies and anyone who believes them is welcome to invest in my Saharan Cruise Line. Because a party with ample opportunity to accomplish its own goals and representing a peak of political success still needs to resort to conspiracy theories to unify a base composed of a hodge-podge of previously marginalized extremist movements. But again I have a great investment in a Saharan Cruise Line to offer........
But that's how I see it. How do you see it?
Edit-Altered a sentence to reflect factual accuracy. Apologies for any confusion.
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Date: 17/4/12 12:30 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 12:49 (UTC)Got sand?
(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 13:38 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 17:50 (UTC)*throws sand*
EDIT: *sends big donation to GOP*
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Date: 18/4/12 00:49 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 18/4/12 01:43 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 11:12 (UTC)(That seems to be the cover-all answer for the Republicans. If they can relate women's issues to high taxes and over-regulation, I figure this won't be a problem either.)
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Date: 17/4/12 16:05 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 12:06 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 12:52 (UTC)Tip sucked Ronnies weener. Different sides of the same coin.
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Date: 17/4/12 14:44 (UTC)There's still a major error of fact in the OP.
(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 16:11 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 17:16 (UTC)The GOP did not take control of the House of Representatives until 1994 when they ran on the Contract with America, that was 2 years into the Clinton Presidency.
The Republicans did have control of all 3 for 4 years of Bush's Presidency with an additional 5 month period in 2001 where they had a 50/50 split (giving them defacto control as the VP casts the deciding vote) until Jim Jeffords switched parties in May.
This means the level of control they had over the government is massively overstated in your post.
In fact during the last 30 years here is how the control breaks down
House of Representatives
R -12 Years
D -18 Years
Senate
R - 16 years 4 months
D - 13 years 8 months
Presidency
R - 20
D - 12
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Date: 17/4/12 17:36 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 17:52 (UTC)XD
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Date: 17/4/12 20:38 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 12:33 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 12:48 (UTC)2. THIS
3. THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and THIS is NOT a satirical post, mod-god, this is REAL TIME
(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 13:44 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 17:33 (UTC)can bring the soup.
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Date: 17/4/12 17:42 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 17:43 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 12:50 (UTC)When the Dems are in charge, government should be cut.
When the GOP is in charge, government should be afforded the trust and expansionary powers to properly herd America along its path to its Glorious Destiny.
(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 16:05 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 18/4/12 00:17 (UTC)Afterwards, the idea was that government didn't work. Of course no effort was made to cut it as those who would do so were running it, rather the approach was to do less with the same amount.
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Date: 17/4/12 14:34 (UTC)"The Democrats controlled Congress (the body that actually creates law and policy) for 20 out of the last 30 years, and controlled the White House for 10! Obviously liberals are incapable of running things effectively!"
I don't believe that, of course, but just saying...
(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 16:14 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 16:43 (UTC)BTW, I have heard positive reports from some of your cruise participants:
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Date: 17/4/12 17:54 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 17:56 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 20:27 (UTC)DAILY QUOTE!
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Date: 18/4/12 01:17 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 18/4/12 15:50 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 17/4/12 17:01 (UTC)AND we have a winner, In fact this is so demonstrably true that it is why the entire Tea Party movement started in the first place. That said movement was rather quickly co-opted by the Republican establishment and more specifically Social Conservative wing of it does not change the fact that in the first days of the Tea Party they were rebelling as much against the failure of Republicans to ever even try to cut spending.
Of course Democrats are also guilty of the same thing. They had an iron clad lock on both houses of Congress and the Presidency and yet were unable to implement any of their stated goals completely and the one partial success was to pass a bastardized health care overhaul that was essentially written by Republicans and did more to ensure greater profits for Drug, Hospital, and Insurance companies than it did to expand coverage or control health care costs.
In otherwords Democratic statements about ensuring social justice are blatant lies and anyone who believes them is welcome to invest in my Arizona Beachfront development.
In fact it was really best summed up here....
At the rhetorical level the differences between the major parties look substantial: One side says it favors a dominant role for the central government (to promote fairness and jobs); the other, a dominant role for “the private sector” (to promote economic growth). This difference in emphasis sometimes matters at the margin. The fuzzy line between “private” and “public” sector may move slightly this way or that, depending on which side is in power. But big changes do not occur when power changes hands. Do you want recent evidence? (http://reason.com/archives/2012/04/15/romney-and-obama-agree-power-is-good)
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Date: 18/4/12 01:21 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 18/4/12 19:13 (UTC)I think you've got it backwards. The government has figured out how to co-opt the mainstream media. Not that the news was free of propaganda in earlier decades...
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Date: 18/4/12 20:40 (UTC)I seriously wonder how bad things would be if it weren't for the intertubes.