The King's Eye: Secret Societies and Popular Sovereignty‏

[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

The legend of Jesus makes much more sense when it is placed in the context of the times in which it was enacted. Rather than coming across as some other-worldly miracle worker, Jesus appears to have been a member of a secret society. When people of leisure during the sixteenth century investigated the context of the Jesus story and how it had been exploited, they saw a need for a secret society of their own. They could not share the results of their research with other people without a security apparatus. There were two groups already in existence to whom they could turn for support. One was a remnant of the Knights Templar and the other was a remnant of a Spanish Sufi order. A third option was to start a whole new organization.

Isaac Newton conducted the same inquiry and alluded to the need for secrecy in his extant writings. It was a crime to know and speak the truth. The tradition that saw it as a crime back then still sees it as a crime today. The truth continues to demand a cloak of secrecy to protect its keepers from the jealous glare of the king's eye. Liberalism fools itself in thinking that despotism cannot exist in a "democratic" society. In its denial of regal authority, liberalism makes the false assumption that the power to command and control has been tamed. It thinks that the beast is in a cage even as the creature stalks the streets. Liberalism ignores the evidence in the lacerated wounds of beastly victims. There is a cabinet full of drugs to ease the victim's pain, but not a single treatment to address the cause. A blind physician cannot treat what she cannot, nor will not, perceive.

I mentioned the remnant of the Knights Templar to an acquaintance. He characterized them as anti-Catholic. I pointed out that they were founded and populated by Catholics. The oppositional attitude is actually the other way around. It is Catholicism which opposes the secret society. The latter is willing to give the king his own breathing space. Perhaps this is why liberalism is blind to the machinations of the crown. It resembles the fear of criticizing national socialist tendencies within Israel lest one be branded an anti-Semite. Here in America, Roman Catholics started their own version of the remnant Knights. They even have multiple degrees of initiation. I witnessed their support for defrauding women of rights this past weekend. It was nice of them to wave the US flag as they promoted political actions that would further subjugate poor women.

What role to you see for secret societies in the politics of the future?

Comments

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

Secret societies are essential for bringing the New World Order and our domination over the world! ("We" = the grey reptilian shapeshifters. Here, I admitted it.)

[htpcl.livejournal.com]

I thought you were of the robot guys.

[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

Reptiles are so soft, cute, and cuddly. I especially like the horned lizard:

[kardashev.livejournal.com]

I prefer the "we" that has a secret chamber beneath the pentagon, dons black robes, and chants litanies to dark and ancient beings.

[htpcl.livejournal.com]

Some things are better not known by the broad populace. Like my plan to drown humanity in vodka.

Oh wait...

[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

Isn't that what ouzo is for?

[oportet.livejournal.com]

To have a secret society, you need a society that can keep secrets - I don't think we have that anymore.

[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

What is so difficult about keeping a secret?

[harry-beast.livejournal.com]

That was part of their plan.

[telemann.livejournal.com]

, Jesus appears to have been a member of a secret society.

Whaaat?

[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

Are you familiar with the secret societies of the time? Do your homework. You will see what I mean.

[onefatmusicnerd.livejournal.com]

Where is my Jew check?!?

[luvdovz.livejournal.com]

I suspect she's talking of that Zeitgeist movie...

[devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com]

I was in a fraternity in college. It was cool. We got to wear funny robes, light candles, and speak of our friendship, loyalty and love of our pledges. Then we got to make them strip down to their underwear and roll in molasses and sand, and scream at them.

'Course... sometimes we just skipped the ceremony and got stinkin' drunk instead.

[devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com]

Oh, I forgot to mention how it shaped my character.

[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

College sororities and fraternities are not as politically significant as the societies I mentioned, but they can play a significant role in the lives of their members.

[kardashev.livejournal.com]

"Then we got to make them strip down to their underwear and roll in molasses and sand, and scream at them.

'Course... sometimes we just skipped the ceremony and got stinkin' drunk instead."

Now THAT'S entertainment!

[johnny9fingers.livejournal.com]

Nah.

From what I recall, the Hospitallers became the Knights of Malta; the Templars morphed eventually into the Freemasons; and the Knights of St Columba are a bunch of Irish and assorted Catholic types of a non-liberal bent - but they really aren't much to do with the Templars. As for the ritual and silly costumes, the Knights here resemble other Knightly orders like the Garter or the Thistle, neither of which have anything to do with the Catholic Church, and neither of which have much political power anymore.

[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

Here in the states, the Knights of Columbus play a high profile role in promoting the subjugation of women. They are not to be confused with the Irish organization of a similar name. I have yet to meet a Mason who opposes women's rights, but I am sure they exist.

[paedraggaidin.livejournal.com]

Um, as a former Third Degree Knight of Columbus, I can confidently say that the Knights are *not* a secret society. An organization with sometimes questionable politics (hence one reason for the "former," the others are personal) but a secret society? Do you know anything about why they were formed? If you mean to say they are secret because they have "secret" ceremonies, you don't know much. Knights meetings are basically 1.) a short ceremony, 2.) a typical committee meeting you can find in any organization anywhere, complete with people getting all het up about petty budgetary issues, and 3.) drinking beer and chatting about everything but partisan politics (which is forbidden in a council hall). Initiations (of which I will not reveal details because, haha, I am sworn to secrecy!) are merely a bunch of ceremonies with symbolic meaning, and some prayers.

[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

It sounds like they are pretty much modeled on the Masons. I suppose you have a very rigid definition for "secret society" that would exclude any organization to which you might become a member.

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

Dammit, the Templars were not a secret society. The Templars were a military order in a time chock-full of the things. If we must use real-world examples of secret societies, there are actual, real ones that are much better to use. Like, for instance, the Freemasons, who are a benevolent example of this particular trope. And I might also note that the Israelis are not Nazis, if they were they would have simply exterminated all Palestinians in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip by now and then declared that their living space was satisfied, at least for now. Israel's far more subtle than Hitler's gang of miscreant thugs and gangsters ever was. Not that it's particularly *hard* to be more subtle than Karl Eichmann or Reinhard Heydrich.

[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

I did not say that the Knights Templar were a secret society. By the 16th century, what was left of them had formed a secret society. Likewise, you have misconstrued what I wrote about extremism in Israel.

Most people know very little about the role that the Masons played in the founding of the American republic. I have heard kids talking about the Masons being devil worshippers. Fundamentalists are particularly prone to wearing blinders when it comes to the Masons.

[abomvubuso.livejournal.com]

I was once a member of the Protoss Dark Templar but then I started playing with the Zerg.

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

I Die For Aiur!

[prog-expat.livejournal.com]

[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

I can't tell whether that is a spoof on the Masons or a spoof on those who blame the Masons for all of society's problems.

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

Whenever I think of the Masons I think of my eith grade English teacher reading the "Cask of Amontillado" to the class. It still gives me the shivers, and made me a Poe fan for life.

[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

I was a big Poe afficianado in my youth. It is too bad about his advocacy for slavery. He was sadly misinformed.

[harry-beast.livejournal.com]

Secret societies could play a vital role in reinvigorating democracy. Political correctness in higher education, repressive instruments of government regulation, an increasingly intrusive and abusive media and mob-like anti intellectualism have driven frank and honest discussion about important, relevant social and political issues outside of the public sphere. Only organizations that operate behind a cloak of secrecy can provide a place where people can learn, discuss and debate without fear of reprisals.

[sophia-sadek.livejournal.com]

Excellent points. I know how difficult it is to have a serious intellectual discussion in public without some evesdropper getting their knickers in a twist.

[fornikate.livejournal.com]

i can't tell you, obviously.