SOPA dead. For now.
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talkpolitics“It is clear that we need to revisit the approach on how best to address the problem of foreign thieves that steal and sell American inventions and products.” - Lamar Smith (R-TX), sponsor of SOPA.
I'm glad to hear this, obviously as are most of us here who have been posting on, and discussing this over the last few weeks. But the end of the article raises the specter that it won't be too long before they come out with a replacement bill, and while I never put it past Congress' ability to repeatedly manhandle laws that require a more deft touch, it at least affords us the opportunity to discuss what people here think such a law tackling the same issues should look like, and how it should operate. Better yet, let us ask the question of what it is about the current law that is lacking, and the technical issues at play with the internet that you think makes the current law insufficient, if you think it is at all.
I'm glad to hear this, obviously as are most of us here who have been posting on, and discussing this over the last few weeks. But the end of the article raises the specter that it won't be too long before they come out with a replacement bill, and while I never put it past Congress' ability to repeatedly manhandle laws that require a more deft touch, it at least affords us the opportunity to discuss what people here think such a law tackling the same issues should look like, and how it should operate. Better yet, let us ask the question of what it is about the current law that is lacking, and the technical issues at play with the internet that you think makes the current law insufficient, if you think it is at all.
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Date: 20/1/12 19:43 (UTC)I'm confused now.
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Date: 20/1/12 19:51 (UTC)I'm also curious to learn which "side" was more in favor of this legislation and which was mostly opposed - I mean liberals, conservatives, where do they stand on this issue?
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Date: 21/1/12 03:37 (UTC)But I'm still wondering what those who were ready to bet on the Wiki blackout having no effect, would say now.
I think I’m the guy you were talking about. Although the aftermath of the Wiki blackout was more pronounced than I expected, I wasn’t specifically talking about the effect they would have.
Considering all the saber rattling that was going on with major players like Google, Facebook and Twitter reportedly participating in going dark, I thought the ones that actually did go dark were relatively inconsequential
Would they be willing to admit misjudgment, or they'd try to twist things in all possible ways to make it look like they didn't really mean that?
As is being stated in prior comments, I don’t think the impact of Wiki going dark was all that singular. The SOPA bill was broken out into PIPA and there was talk of delaying these bills in the Senate even before the protests were scheduled.
Also, the President and his administration expressed an opinion (https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/response/combating-online-piracy-while-protecting-open-and-innovative-internet) that mirrored many of the protestors’ issues before the Wiki blackout. This was in response to a petition (https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/veto-sopa-bill-and-any-other-future-bills-threaten-diminish-free-flow-information/g3W1BscR) on the White House site started in December of last year. Since the response to the opinion is not dated, it is hard to tell if this response was spawned by the protests.
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Date: 20/1/12 20:29 (UTC)Yes, that is me with Tim Berners-Lee yesterday morning live at Lotusphere. :P
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Date: 20/1/12 21:22 (UTC)http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/why-the-feds-smashed-megaupload.ars
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Date: 20/1/12 19:48 (UTC)If we're concerned about foreign thieves, then the state department needs to work with foreign law enforcement to arrest and prosecute those thieves. At the VERY LEAST, there shouldn't be a "shoot first, ask questions later" solution to any problem except when one's life is in danger.
One thing we need to recognize, though, is that "piracy" will always exist. There is no final solution to it. So the goal should be to minimize it. I think the majority of that burden lies with the entertainment industry and their terrible business model. If it's easier for someone to download a movie, for example, than to drive out to a theater, wait in line, drop a ton of money for food and drinks, and sit in a dirty theater full of rude people, which would anyone choose the latter? Focus on streaming, ease of use, low cost, and added value people will choose that over piracy*.
* For the most part. Like I said, there will always be a few people who will never pay for it.
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Date: 20/1/12 23:15 (UTC)Obama saying that he plans to veto something is not exactly an ironclad guarantee at this point.
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Date: 20/1/12 21:25 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 20/1/12 21:18 (UTC)Internet Freedomization Act! Isn't that catchy? Should confuse enough people on both sides of the issue long enough for it to ease through.
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Date: 20/1/12 23:02 (UTC)“The theft of America’s intellectual property costs the U.S. economy more than $100 billion annually and results in the loss of thousands of American jobs. Congress cannot stand by and do nothing while American innovators and job creators are under attack.”
Yeah right. I can pull numbers out of my ass too. That's so wrong it isn't even wrong.
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